How to Think About War
An Ancient Guide to Foreign Policy
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Why do nations go to war? What are citizens willing to die for? What justifies foreign invasion? And does might always make right?
For nearly 2,500 years, students, politicians, political thinkers, and military leaders have read the eloquent and shrewd speeches in Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War for profound insights into military conflict, diplomacy, and the behavior of people and countries in times of crisis. How to Think about War presents the most influential and compelling of these speeches in an elegant new translation by classicist Johanna Hanink, accompanied by an enlightening introduction.
Thucydides intended his account of the clash between classical Greece's mightiest powers - Athens and Sparta - to be a "possession for all time". Today, it remains a foundational work for the study not only of ancient history, but also contemporary politics and international relations.
How to Think about War features speeches that have earned the history its celebrated status - all of those delivered before the Athenian Assembly, as well as Pericles' funeral oration and the notoriously ruthless "Melian Dialogue". Organized by key debates, these complex speeches reveal the recklessness, cruelty, and realpolitik of Athenian war fighting and imperialism.
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The History of the Peloponnesian War
- By: Thucydides
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The rivalry between two of the dominant city states of Ancient Greece, Athens and Sparta, erupted into a war lasting nearly 30 years and was to have a dramatic effect on the balance of power in the area. Between 431 and 404 BCE, the two cities battled it out on land and sea, aided by their alliances with neighbouring states: Athens’ Delian League vigorously opposed Sparta’s Peloponnesian League in a conflict which effectively involved the whole region.
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Full frontal of war, politics, diplomacy, destruction, plunder
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Scipio Africanus
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- By: B.H. Liddell Hart
- Narrated by: Derek Perkins
- Length: 6 hrs and 16 mins
- Unabridged
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Scipio Africanus (236-183 BC) was one of the most exciting and dynamic leaders in history. As commander, he never lost a battle. Yet it is his adversary, Hannibal, who has lived on in public memory. As B. H. Liddell Hart writes, "Scipio's battles are richer in stratagems and ruses - many still feasible today - than those of any other commander in history." Any military enthusiast or historian will find this to be an absorbing, gripping portrait.
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5 out of 5 stars
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- By A. Johnson on 12-23-19
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Napoleon's Wars
- An International History, 1803-1815
- By: Charles Esdaile
- Narrated by: Simon Prebble
- Length: 24 hrs and 47 mins
- Unabridged
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In the most definitive account to date, respected historian Charles Esdaile argues that the chief motivating factor for Napoleon was his insatiable desire for fame. More than a myth-busting portrait of Napoleon, however, this volume offers a panoramic view of the armed conflicts that spread so quickly out of revolutionary France to countries as remote as Sweden and Egypt.
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2 out of 5 stars
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Not bad, nor what I was expecting
- By Judd Bagley on 07-18-09
By: Charles Esdaile
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The Strenuous Life: Essays and Addresses of Theodore Roosevelt
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- Narrated by: George Doyle
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- Unabridged
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 57
"The Strenuous Life: Essays and Addresses" is a collection of Theodore Roosevelt's published commentaries and public addresses on what is necessary for a vital and healthy political, social and individual life. Roosevelt states the main point of his speech in the opening remarks: "I wish to preach, not the doctrine of ignoble ease, but the doctrine of the strenuous life, the life of toil and effort, of labor and strife.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Good book. Poor presentation.
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Churchill
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Winston Churchill understood and wielded the power of words throughout his six decades in the public eye. His wartime writings and speeches revealed both his vision for the future and his own personal feelings, fascinating generation after generation with their powerful style and thoughtful reflection. In this book Churchill's official biographer, Martin Gilbert, has skilfully selected 200 extracts from his entire oeuvre of books, articles and speeches that reflect his life story, career and philosophy.
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By: Sir Winston Churchill, and others
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3 out of 5 stars
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By: A.J.P. Taylor
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- The Life and Legacy of Cato, Mortal Enemy of Caesar
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- Narrated by: Derek Perkins
- Length: 13 hrs and 9 mins
- Unabridged
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 282
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 285
Marcus Porcius Cato: aristocrat who walked barefoot and slept on the ground with his troops, political heavyweight who cultivated the image of a Stoic philosopher, a hardnosed defender of tradition who presented himself as a man out of the sacred Roman past-and the last man standing when Rome's Republic fell to tyranny. His blood feud with Caesar began in the chamber of the Senate, played out on the battlefields of a world war, and ended when he took his own life rather than live under a dictator.
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1 out of 5 stars
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Unfortunate
- By Olivia N. on 11-06-20
By: Rob Goodman, and others
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The March of Folly
- From Troy to Vietnam
- By: Barbara W. Tuchman
- Narrated by: Wanda McCaddon
- Length: 17 hrs and 53 mins
- Unabridged
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 530
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 526
In The March of Folly, two-time Pulitzer Prize winning historian Barbara Tuchman tackles the pervasive presence of folly in governments through the ages. Defining folly as the pursuit by governments of policies contrary to their own interests, despite the availability of feasible alternatives, Tuchman details four decisive turning points in history that illustrate the very heights of folly in government.
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3 out of 5 stars
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Tuchman surprises me...
- By Plimtuna on 09-24-09
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The Leadership Genius of Julius Caesar
- Modern Lessons from the Man Who Built an Empire
- By: Phillip Barlag
- Narrated by: Joseph Bronzi
- Length: 2 hrs and 47 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 54
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 48
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 48
In a book that Doris Kearns Goodwin has called "brilliantly crafted to draw leadership lessons from history", Philip Barlag uses dramatic and colorful incidents from Caesar's career to illustrate what modern leaders can learn from him. Central to Barlag's argument is the distinction between power and force. When leading his own organization, Caesar never used brute force to motivate his followers.
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5 out of 5 stars
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HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BOOK
- By Orange Monkey on 07-29-20
By: Phillip Barlag
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A History of the Roman Republic
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- Narrated by: Charlton Griffin
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 51
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 47
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 45
The story of the Roman Republic is the greatest epic in human history. Seen in the long perspective of time, it seems too fantastic to be real. From her modest beginnings as a convenient fording place on the Tiber to her eventual destiny as the mistress of the Mediterranean, Rome offers a strange tale of fate, sacrifice, and indomitable willpower. The stern realities of war shaped Rome's policies from the very beginning.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Excellent overview
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Cicero: The Life and Times of Rome's Greatest Politician
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 1,450
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 1,284
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 1,280
In this dynamic and engaging biography, Anthony Everitt plunges us into the fascinating, scandal-ridden world of ancient Rome in its most glorious heyday. Accessible to us through his legendary speeches but also through an unrivaled collection of unguarded letters to his close friend Atticus, Cicero comes to life here as a witty and cunning political operator.
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4 out of 5 stars
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An eloquent man, and a patriot
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By: Anthony Everitt
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Napoleon
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- Narrated by: Simon Vance
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- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 62
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 55
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Story4 out of 5 stars 55
Written with great energy and authority - and using the newly available personal archives of Napoleon himself - the first volume of a majestic two-part biography of the great French emperor and conqueror.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Clarity
- By Tad Davis on 03-25-19
By: Michael Broers
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The Thirty Years War
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- Narrated by: Charlton Griffin
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- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 855
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 747
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 743
Initially, the Thirty Years War was precipitated in 1618 by religious conflicts between Protestants and Catholics in the Holy Roman Empire. But the conflict soon spread beyond religion to encompass the internal politics and balance of power within the Empire, and then later to the other European powers. By the end, it became simply a dynastic struggle between Bourbon France and Habsburg Spain. And almost all of it was fought out in Germany. Entire regions were depopulated and destroyed.
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5 out of 5 stars
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One of the World's Great History Books.
- By Judith A. Weller on 08-25-12
By: C. V. Wedgwood
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Churchill's Trial
- Winston Churchill and the Salvation of Free Government
- By: Dr. Larry Arnn
- Narrated by: Wayne Campbell
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 147
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A penetrating look at the necessity of constitutional limits upon government and exceptional men to lead those governments, uniquely taken by overlaying the life and writings of Winston Churchill with the American experiment.
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4 out of 5 stars
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A Masterpiece of Political Philosophy
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Rome and the Mediterranean Vol. 1
- The Histories
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- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 173
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 133
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Polybius wrote his Histories "to find out by what means and by what political system the entire world was brought under the domination of Rome." Within the short space of about 50 years Rome went from being a provincial leader of an Italian confederacy to become the Mistress of the Mediterranean. Polybius was one of the first historians to attempt to present history as a sequence of causes and effects, based upon a careful examination of tradition and a keen scrutiny of the facts.
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4 out of 5 stars
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You have to know what your are getting into
- By Dylan on 01-24-10
By: Polybius
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Living and dying with bravery and honor is at the heart of Hagakure, a series of texts written by an 18th-century samurai, Yamamoto Tsunetomo. It is a window into the samurai mind, illuminating the concept of bushido (the Way of the Warrior), which dictated how samurai were expected to behave, conduct themselves, live, and die.
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Great Way to Experience the Book Again
- By WildKarrde on 07-10-17
By: Yamamoto Tsunetomo, and others
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How to Care About Animals
- An Ancient Guide to Creatures Great and Small (Ancient Wisdom for Modern Readers)
- By: Porphyry, M. D. Usher - translator with commentary
- Narrated by: Peter Noble
- Length: 2 hrs and 33 mins
- Unabridged
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An entertaining and enlightening anthology of classical Greek and Roman writings on animals—and our vital relationships with them.
By: Porphyry, and others
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The Peloponnesian War
- By: Donald Kagan
- Narrated by: Bill Wallace
- Length: 19 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
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For almost three decades at the end of the fifth century BC the ancient world was torn apart in a conflict that was, within its historical context, as dramatic, divisive, and destructive as the great world wars of the 20th century. The Peloponnesian War pitted Greek against Greek: the Athenians, with their glorious empire, rich legacy of democracy and political rights, and extraordinary cultural achievement, against the militaristic, oligarchic Spartan state.
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Just The Facts And You Will Need Maps
- By Nikoli Gogol on 01-22-12
By: Donald Kagan
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How to Say It: Words That Make a Difference
- By: Allison Friederichs Atkison, The Great Courses
- Narrated by: Allison Friederichs Atkison
- Length: 4 hrs and 44 mins
- Original Recording
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Words. We use them all the time, every day, mostly without giving them much thought at all. We take for granted that they’re here at our disposal whenever we need them. But if you’ve ever wished you could communicate more effectively, words are the place to start. It’s incumbent upon you to choose the best words to accomplish your goals, because how you choose to communicate influences—well, everything! The power of communication shapes our professional goals, our relationships, and our lives—so the words we choose to use carry a great deal of power.
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Meh. Glad I didn't pay for it.
- By Paula on 07-23-22
By: Allison Friederichs Atkison, and others
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- John Greytok
- 03-19-24
Amazing ideas
Always fascinating to see how today’s issues are the same issues as 2500 years ago. It was great to have an abridged version to hit the highlights of this interesting history.
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- Larry W. Patrick
- 08-19-24
I understand why leaders read Thucydides
After reading this book, you understand how empires loose their luster. Informative wisdom from the long past
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- Michael S Hotaling
- 07-22-19
Just as relevant as ever
The speeches discussed within are as important today as in ancient times. Students of history and politics should take the few hours to enjoy and absorb this, as they will find uncanny parallels to today's political sphere and how nations behave.
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- Amazon Customer
- 12-07-22
Save time - essentials of the Peloponnesian War
Masterful selection of just the right passages for modern warfare to learn from this ancient text. Save time, most practitioners do not have time to read all of Thucydides. This is a brilliant translation of 6 sections that matter today
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- Anonymous User
- 07-19-23
Wisdom for the ages
Breaks down some very complex ideas
I know it sounds old but it still applies to today
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