Carnage and Culture
Landmark Battles in the Rise to Western Power
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Examining nine landmark battles from ancient to modern times - from Salamis, where outnumbered Greeks devastated the slave army of Xerxes, to Cortes' conquest of Mexico to the Tet offensive - Victor Davis Hanson explains why the armies of the West have been the most lethal and effective of any fighting forces in the world.
Looking beyond popular explanations such as geography or superior technology, Hanson argues that it is in fact Western culture and values - the tradition of dissent, the value placed on inventiveness and adaptation, the concept of citizenship - which have consistently produced superior arms and soldiers. Offering riveting battle narratives and a balanced perspective that avoids simple triumphalism, Carnage and Culture demonstrates how armies cannot be separated from the cultures that produce them and explains why an army produced by a free culture will always have the advantage.
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 152
History has tended to measure war's winners and losers in terms of its major engagements, battles in which the result was so clear-cut that they could be considered "decisive". Cannae, Konigsberg, Austerlitz, Midway, Agincourt - all resonate in the literature of war and in our imaginations as tide-turning. But these legendary battles may or may not have determined the final outcome of the wars in which they were fought. Cathal J. Nolan's The Allure of Battle systematically and engrossingly examines the great battles, tracing what he calls "short-war thinking".
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2 out of 5 stars
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Missing important facts and not well researched
- By Andrew on 02-24-18
By: Cathal J. Nolan
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The Great Commanders
- Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Horatio Nelson, Napoleon Bonaparte, Ulysses S. Grant, Georgi Zhukov
- By: Phil Grabsky
- Narrated by: Phil Grabsky
- Length: 5 hrs and 50 mins
- Unabridged
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The Great Commanders is a masterly portrait of six men - Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Horatio Nelson, Napoleon Bonaparte, Ulysses S. Grant and Georgi Zhukov - whose military genius changed the course of world history.
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Broad, and High Level History
- By Mark on 11-20-14
By: Phil Grabsky
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The Second Sino-Japanese War
- A Captivating Guide to Military Conflict That Began Between China and Japan, Including Events Such as the Japanese Invasion of Manchuria and the Nanjing Massacre
- By: Captivating History
- Narrated by: Jason Zenobia
- Length: 3 hrs and 28 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 15
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 13
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Story5 out of 5 stars 13
Many people in the West look upon the Second Sino-Japanese War, which took place in the 1930s and 1940s, as a sort of sideshow to the larger Second World War, but there is no separating the two. Imagine the Pacific War, the theater of World War II that took place in the Pacific. If the Japanese were not busy fighting on another front, they would have had millions of more troops available to fight the Americans and the British. In all likelihood, World War II would have ended the same way, but it would have taken much longer and cost that many more lives.
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A good summary of Japan leading up to WW2
- By M Maurer on 11-18-21
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Last Stands
- Why Men Fight When All Is Lost
- By: Michael Walsh
- Narrated by: Michael Walsh
- Length: 13 hrs and 42 mins
- Unabridged
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What is heroism? What are its moral components - altruism, love, self-sacrifice? Why was it once celebrated, and now often dismissed as anachronistic? In this dramatic and readable account of last stands in history - famous or otherwise - Walsh explores the stakes that led men at very different times and places to face overwhelming odds and certain death for the sake of family, home and country.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Excellent historical facts
- By Mark Twain on 02-18-21
By: Michael Walsh
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The Punic Wars
- A Captivating Guide to the First, Second, and Third Punic Wars Between Rome and Carthage, Including the Rise and Fall of Hannibal Barca
- By: Captivating History
- Narrated by: Jason Zenobia
- Length: 3 hrs and 13 mins
- Unabridged
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The Punic Wars between 264 BCE and 146 BCE were a series of wars fought between the armies of ancient Carthage and Rome. In the years before the battles broke out, Carthage had risen from a small port community to the Mediterranean region's richest and most powerful city. Carthage had a powerful navy, a mercenary army, and ample resources to act as an authority in trade and politics. As such, Carthage prohibited Roman trade in the Western Mediterranean through an agreement with what was then just a small city called Rome. Rome didn’t stay small and insignificant for long.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Good job
- By Elvira Castillo on 05-14-20
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The Second World Wars
- How the First Global Conflict Was Fought and Won
- By: Victor Davis Hanson
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 23 hrs and 28 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 1,413
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Story5 out of 5 stars 1,247
The Second World Wars examines how combat unfolded in the air, at sea, and on land to show how distinct conflicts among disparate combatants coalesced into one interconnected global war. Drawing on 3,000 years of military history, Victor Davis Hanson argues that despite its novel industrial barbarity, neither the war's origins nor its geography were unusual. Nor was its ultimate outcome surprising. The Axis powers were well prepared to win limited border conflicts, but once they blundered into global war, they had no hope of victory.
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5 out of 5 stars
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The story behind the story of WW 2
- By LARRY DINKIN on 02-07-19
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Marathon
- The Battle That Changed Western Civilization
- By: Richard A. Billows
- Narrated by: Jeremy Gage
- Length: 8 hrs and 59 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 113
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 91
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 89
Published to coincide with Marathon's 2500th anniversary, a riveting history of the historic battle. The Battle of Marathon in 490 B.C. is not only understood as the most decisive event in the struggle between the Greeks and the Persians, but can also be seen as perhaps the most significant moment in our collective history. 10,000 Athenian citizens faced a Persian military force of more than 25,000.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Effectively evokes the world of ancient greece
- By Aaron on 11-02-10
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Frederick the Great
- A Military History
- By: Dennis Showalter
- Narrated by: Joe Barrett
- Length: 13 hrs and 31 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4 out of 5 stars 66
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 55
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 55
Frederick the Great is one of history's most important leaders. Famed for his military successes and domestic reforms, his campaigns were a watershed in the history of Europe, securing Prussia's place as a continental power and inaugurating a new pattern of total war that was to endure until 1916. However, much myth surrounds this enigmatic man's personality and his role as politician, warrior, and king.
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2 out of 5 stars
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Thrashed insensibly by over writing
- By Jeff Lacy on 09-27-20
By: Dennis Showalter
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Storm Clouds over the Pacific, 1931-1941
- War in the Far East Series, Book 1
- By: Peter Harmsen
- Narrated by: Walter Dixon
- Length: 9 hrs and 4 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 33
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 28
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 28
Storm Clouds over the Pacific begins the story long before Pearl Harbor, showing how the war can only be understood if ancient hatreds and long-standing geopolitics are taken into account. Harmsen demonstrates how Japan and China's ancient enmity led to increased tensions in the 1930s, which, in turn, exploded into conflict in 1937.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Interesting Story
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By: Peter Harmsen
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A History of War in 100 Battles
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- Narrated by: Steven Crossley
- Length: 16 hrs and 22 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4 out of 5 stars 67
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Performance4 out of 5 stars 55
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Story4 out of 5 stars 55
The object of this audiobook is to introduce listeners to a whole range of military history which has all the drama, dangers, horrors and excitement that we associate with Stalingrad or the Somme. Battles are acute moments of history whenever and wherever they have been fought. Through them we can understand how warfare and world history have evolved. Choosing just 100 battles from recorded human history is a challenge.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Fascinating perspective o war
- By Roscoe's Masked Avenger on 12-22-16
By: Richard Overy
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Moment of Battle
- The Twenty Clashes That Changed the World
- By: James Lacey, Williamson Murray
- Narrated by: Kevin Foley
- Length: 15 hrs and 21 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 34
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 32
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 32
From the great clashes of antiquity to the high-tech wars of the twenty-first century, here are the stories of the twenty most consequential battles ever fought, including Marathon, where Greece's "greatest generation" repelled Persian forces three times their numbers-and saved Western civilization in its infancy.
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5 out of 5 stars
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In Depth
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The End Is Always Near
- Apocalyptic Moments, from the Bronze Age Collapse to Nuclear Near Misses
- By: Dan Carlin
- Narrated by: Dan Carlin
- Length: 7 hrs and 55 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 10,284
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 9,054
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 9,001
In The End Is Always Near, Dan Carlin looks at questions and historical events that force us to consider what sounds like fantasy; that we might suffer the same fate that all previous eras did. Will our world ever become a ruin for future archaeologists to dig up and explore? The questions themselves are both philosophical and like something out of The Twilight Zone.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Hardcore Histories Greatest Hits
- By Steven Glover on 10-31-19
By: Dan Carlin
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The Fall of Carthage
- The Punic Wars 265-146BC
- By: Adrian Goldsworthy
- Narrated by: Derek Perkins
- Length: 16 hrs and 26 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 1,571
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 1,352
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 1,346
The struggle between Rome and Carthage in the Punic Wars was arguably the greatest and most desperate conflict of antiquity. The forces involved and the casualties suffered by both sides were far greater than in any wars fought before the modern era, while the eventual outcome had far-reaching consequences for the history of the Western World, namely the ascendancy of Rome. An epic of war and battle, this is also the story of famous generals and leaders: Hannibal, Fabius Maximus, Scipio Africanus, and his grandson Scipio Aemilianus, who would finally bring down the walls of Carthage.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Captivating
- By Jean on 03-25-19
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Afghanistan
- A Military History from Alexander the Great to the Fall of the Taliban
- By: Stephen Tanner
- Narrated by: Raymond Todd
- Length: 14 hrs and 36 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4 out of 5 stars 197
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Performance4 out of 5 stars 88
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For more than 2,500 years, the forbidding territory of Afghanistan has served as a vital crossroads not only for armies but also for clashes between civilizations. As a result of the United States' engaging in armed conflict with the Afghan regime, an understanding of the military history of that blood-soaked land has become essential to every American.
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5 out of 5 stars
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A Great Overview
- By Colin on 10-16-08
By: Stephen Tanner
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A great (and concise) deep dive
- By EastCountyBooks on 08-28-23
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Last Stands
- Why Men Fight When All Is Lost
- By: Michael Walsh
- Narrated by: Michael Walsh
- Length: 13 hrs and 42 mins
- Unabridged
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What is heroism? What are its moral components - altruism, love, self-sacrifice? Why was it once celebrated, and now often dismissed as anachronistic? In this dramatic and readable account of last stands in history - famous or otherwise - Walsh explores the stakes that led men at very different times and places to face overwhelming odds and certain death for the sake of family, home and country.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Excellent historical facts
- By Mark Twain on 02-18-21
By: Michael Walsh
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The Vision of the Anointed
- Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy
- By: Thomas Sowell
- Narrated by: Tom Weiner
- Length: 9 hrs and 20 mins
- Unabridged
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In this devastating critique of the mindset behind the failed social policies of the past 30 years, Thomas Sowell sees what has happened not as a series of isolated mistakes, but as a logical consequence of a vision whose defects have led to disasters in education, crime, family disintegration, and more. This is an empirical study in which “politically correct” theory is repeatedly confronted with facts, and the sharp contradictions between the two are explained in terms of a set of self-congratulatory assumptions held by political and intellectual elites.
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5 out of 5 stars
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One of the best books I've ever listened to...
- By Dan on 07-29-14
By: Thomas Sowell
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A History of Warfare
- By: John Keegan
- Narrated by: Frederick Davidson
- Length: 19 hrs and 12 mins
- Unabridged
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Starting with the premise that all civilizations owe their origins to warmaking, Keegan probes the meanings, motivations, and methods underlying war in different societies over the course of more than two thousand years. Following the progress of human aggression in its full historical sweep, from the strangely ritualistic combat of Stone Age peoples to the warfare of mass destruction in the present age, his illuminating and lively narrative gives us all the world's great warrior cultures.
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3 out of 5 stars
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Not what I expected
- By Mark on 12-05-06
By: John Keegan
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- Phyllis
- 05-17-21
I dare to say this is one of VDH's best!
History. If you enjoy history, especially about the Rise of Western Power and Dominance, Victor Davis Hanson never disappoints. The narrator is also very good. Highly recommended.
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- M.W.C.
- 11-22-22
Fantastic book!
Extremely interesting, as all if VDH's work is. Provides an understanding of why Western culture, originating with the Greeks and Romans, has had the success that it has.
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- Amazon Customer
- 09-13-21
The WAY we are Because ....
World History from a Vantage Point.
EXCELLENT. SHOULD BE REQUIRED READING FOR EVERY COLLEGE GRADUATE.
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- Joseph P. Silvestri
- 01-10-24
great history!
will re-listen to on audible. excellent historical research deep dives into major battles and struggles
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- Anonymous User
- 06-04-21
Read this book!
More proof that The West is The Best! Great analysis and history! You won't be disappointed!
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- Troy
- 01-03-23
Fact filled description of evolution of western warfare.
An excellent treatise that connects the western world in a way that makes clear the path to western current style of warfare and the basic tenants and values that make it possible.
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- Amazon Customer
- 11-27-22
Great Compendium of Battles
I love VDH’s thought processes and insights. He brings together complexities into easy to understand and very relevant modern conclusions. It’s clear, given history back to the 400s BC, that America and the West need to fight for the First & Second Amendments (among others), free market capitalism, and the Constitution in order to benefit the world. Non-Westerners haven’t had these things and the people suffered because of it.
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- Ciegetanks
- 09-30-20
Read this book
If you have any interest in military history at all you must read this book.
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- abnheel
- 10-23-23
Victor Davis Hanson is a treasure
One of the best writers and thinkers alive. Comprehensive look at select warfare and how democracies and free societies succeed and why. Highly recommended.
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- GEJ
- 11-12-19
Wow! This truly is a great book. A rarity!
Superbly researched and factually detailed with brilliant analyses of landmark battles. In a word: Brilliant!
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