Before We Go Live
Navigating the Abusive World of Online Entertainment
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Stephen Flavall
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Starting out, I made three dollars an hour, then I made four, then eight. After a year and a half of streaming full-time, I was finally making minimum wage. A couple of years after that, I was signed to a professional team and advertising products to my audience for $1,000 an hour.
Streaming video games is now a billion-dollar industry. In 2022, Twitch alone had over 140 million active monthly users, with top players earning millions each year. But success breeds envy, and when big money's being made, everyone wants a piece.
In Before We Go Live, professional streamer Stephen Flavall, aka jorbs, invites the listener behind the scenes of this new frontier.
From the boardrooms of LA to doctors' offices in the Midwest, dealing with trolls and stalkers to mingling with crypto scammers and ruthless opportunists, Before We Go Live is both a true story about the dark realities of streaming and the tale of a deep and enduring friendship.
It's about what happens when real life intersects with entertainment, and learning to act with kindness and humor in an online world full of prejudice and abuse.
This audiobook edition is narrated by Ray Chase, voice of Noctis Lucis Caelum, L, and Bruno Buccellatti.
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Geared toward women who are considering getting into tech, or those already in a tech job who want to take their career to the next level, this book combines practical career advice and inspiring personal stories from successful female tech professionals Brianna Wu, Angie Chang, Keren Elazari, Katie Cunningham, Miah Johnson, Kristin Toth Smith, and Kamilah Taylor. Written by a female startup CEO and featuring a host of other successful contributors.
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Fantastic, motivating and superb advice!
- By EuropeanCaliGRL on 12-29-17
By: Tarah Wheeler
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100 Ways to Create Wealth
- By: Sam Beckford, Steve Chandler
- Narrated by: Steve Chandler
- Length: 8 hrs and 36 mins
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These 100 eye-opening ways to create wealth are drawn from the author's successful careers, with many touching personal stories as well as stories and examples from the hundreds of clients these master coaches have advised. This book is chock full of ways to make money, deepen life's pleasure, increase personal wage-earning power, and start fresh entrepreneurial ideas right at home.
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A MUST HAVE!
- By Thomas on 10-31-08
By: Sam Beckford, and others
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Never Eat Alone, Expanded and Updated
- And the Other Secrets to Success, One Relationship at a Time
- By: Keith Ferrazzi, Tahl Raz
- Narrated by: Richard Harries
- Length: 13 hrs and 49 mins
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In Never Eat Alone, Ferrazzi lays out the specific steps - and inner mindset - he uses to reach out to connect with the thousands of colleagues, friends, and associates on his contacts list, people he has helped and who have helped him. And in the time since Never Eat Alone was published in 2005, the rise of social media and new, collaborative management styles have only made Ferrazzi’s advice more essential for anyone hoping to get ahead in business.
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Couldn't finish
- By book smart on 05-01-16
By: Keith Ferrazzi, and others
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The Secret Society of Success
- Stop Chasing the Spotlight and Learn to Enjoy Your Work (and Life) Again
- By: Tim Schurrer, Donald Miller
- Narrated by: Tim Schurrer
- Length: 6 hrs and 22 mins
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There’s a message getting a lot of airtime these days. It says to be successful, you have to step into the spotlight, climb the ladder, become the boss, or chase whatever version of success that’s been dangled in front of you.
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This book helped me reframe a career transition
- By Jeff on 06-13-22
By: Tim Schurrer, and others
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Your Turn
- How to Be an Adult
- By: Julie Lythcott-Haims
- Narrated by: Julie Lythcott-Haims
- Length: 20 hrs and 21 mins
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What does it mean to be an adult? In the 20th century, psychologists came up with five markers of adulthood: finish your education, get a job, leave home, marry, and have children. Since then, every generation has been held to those same markers. Yet so much has changed about the world and living in it since that sequence was formulated. All of those markers are choices, and they’re all valid, but any one person’s choices along those lines do not make them more or less an adult.
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Not the book that was advertised
- By M. Rogers on 04-13-21
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It's Your Move
- My Million Dollar Method for Taking Risks with Confidence and Succeeding at Work and Life
- By: Josh Altman
- Narrated by: Josh Altman
- Length: 6 hrs and 2 mins
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Josh "the Shark" Altman has achieved extraordinary success in a traditional industry and in the most competitive real estate market in the country - all without being "discovered" or catching the proverbial big break. He worked for it. He figured it out. He failed. He learned. He wrote his own script. The key to his success? Confidence - informed, intelligent, calculated confidence. Calculated confidence means training yourself in your chosen field, knowing it so well that you can trust your gut instincts to guide you toward the best possible option.
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Overall a good book but recommend a title change
- By Reginald on 06-19-18
By: Josh Altman
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Leap
- Leaving a Job with No Plan B to Find the Career and Life You Really Want
- By: Tess Vigeland
- Narrated by: Tess Vigeland
- Length: 7 hrs and 12 mins
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Until recently Tess Vigeland was a longtime host of public radio's Marketplace. It was a rewarding, high-status job, and Tess was very good at it - but she'd begun to feel restless. Without any definite, clear sense of what she wanted to do next (but an absolute certainty that what she'd been doing was no longer truly satisfying), she walked away from her dream job and into a vast unknown. Suddenly she was no longer " Marketplace's Tess Vigeland"; she was just Tess Vigeland.
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Everything Mrs Vigeland says is true, but ...
- By Claude on 10-10-15
By: Tess Vigeland
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Total Focus
- Making Better Decisions Under Pressure
- By: Brandon Webb, John David Mann
- Narrated by: Johnathan McClain, Brandon Webb
- Length: 7 hrs and 38 mins
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Over his four deployments as a Navy SEAL sniper, Brandon Webb learned all about performing while experiencing heart-pounding stress. After returning to civilian life, he started his first business venture - and failed miserably. He realized that his big mistake was neglecting to apply what he already knew about focus under pressure. By drawing on the lessons of his SEAL training and early business struggles, Webb went on to build a second business, a media network called Hurricane.
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Biography/ sales pitch.
- By Dennis on 01-10-18
By: Brandon Webb, and others
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How to Win at the Sport of Business
- If I Can Do It, You Can Do It
- By: Mark Cuban
- Narrated by: Charles Constant
- Length: 2 hrs and 8 mins
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Using the greatest material from his popular Blog Maverick, Cuban has collected and updated his postings on business and life to provide a catalog of insider knowledge on what it takes to become a thriving entrepreneur. He tells his own rags-to-riches story of how he went from selling powdered milk and sleeping on friends' couches to owning his own company and becoming a multibillion-dollar success story.
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Short and precise.
- By Mariam on 04-27-15
By: Mark Cuban
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The Memo
- What Women of Color Need to Know to Secure a Seat at the Table
- By: Minda Harts
- Narrated by: Minda Harts
- Length: 4 hrs and 59 mins
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The Memo is the much-needed career advice guide for women of color specifically, finally ending the one-size-fits-all approach of business books that lump together women across races and overlook the unique barriers to success for women of color. In a charismatic and relatable voice, Minda Harts brings her entrepreneurial experience as CEO of The Memo to audio, as well as her past career life as a fundraising consultant to top colleges across the country.
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Must read (listen) for EVERY woman
- By VJ Smith on 08-28-19
By: Minda Harts
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Killing It
- An Entrepreneur's Guide to Keeping Your Head Without Losing Your Heart
- By: Sheryl O'Loughlin
- Narrated by: Cassandra Campbell
- Length: 8 hrs and 9 mins
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Aspiring entrepreneurs are told that to launch a business, you must go all in, devoting every resource and moment to making it work. But following this advice comes at an enormous personal cost: divorce, addiction, even suicide. It means sacrificing the intangibles that make life worth living. Sheryl O'Loughlin knows there is a better way. In Killing It, she shares the wisdom she's gained from her successful experiences.
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Great read! Insightful!
- By Justine A. Kundert on 06-14-17
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- Ryan Hess
- 05-02-23
An incredible look at the world and relationships
Jorbs shared with us many very personal stories that gave us a look at the strategy gaming space on twitch. In doing so, not only have I learned a lot about streaming by listening, but I feel like I have garnered something about the world as a whole. There's so much hate in inequality in the world, but in the relationships we form and the actions we take there can be beauty and kindness. After listening, I feel inspired to do more to put that beauty and kindness in the forefront of my life and my streams. Thank you Jorbs and all those you talked with for your words and stories. And thank you to Ray whose wonderful voice brought this book to my ears.
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- Zach Weber
- 04-28-23
jacques orblong has done it again
this is a good book, about an excellent boat, and a great person who also happens to stream video games for a living. harrowing, principled, well-told, insightful and above all necessary for our moment in time, this is a kind of story and of storytelling I haven't found anywhere else. the narrator is really good, too.
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- Matt Jibson
- 05-26-23
An honest, human story of growth
You know that feeling of: "this is so obviously wrong, why is everyone going along with it"? This story is Jorbs not going along, and the resulting human connection from that choice. I loved this tale and its resulting triumphs. Gratitude to the author for, again, opening up more of themself for the audience.
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- Matthew harnden
- 06-12-23
Valuable perspective
This book is difficult to describe succinctly because it covers a range of topics. On one hand, it includes discussions regarding morality and individual choices that I believe are in a way timeless, while also providing autobiographical elements and a focused account of recent events leading up to 2023 (the year I’m writing this review). The quality of the presentation of the two elements in a combined manner is higher than what I would expect based solely on the individual parts because the events recounted in the book provide a concrete backdrop for the philosophical and personal discussions.
To look at it another way, most people don’t know what it’s like to run a live show as a full time job (and some of the other things that it may entail). This book gives the reader a peak behind the curtain.
I’ve got a lot more I could say about the book, all good things, but the short of it is that (as a regular consumer of Stephen Flavall’s content on Twitch and on YouTube) this is an interesting and eye opening account of events that I previously was only vaguely aware of as an outsider. Very much worth the read for anyone who consumes any amount of individual created online content.
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- Tait Madsen
- 06-03-23
This is important
It’s hard to write a review for this. More than anything I think this book feels important. I get so much value out of watching Stephen’s streams, not just learning slay the spire, but beyond that a framework for decision making. And beyond that a demonstration that approaching others with a baseline of care and love is a pattern that we can follow. This book doesn’t dwell too much on strategic decision making, but it reveals the heart-wrenching reality of the abuse endured by the people bringing us these lessons.
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- rob biallas
- 09-21-23
An honest story of human empathy and growth
This is a wonderful look at the human behind the entertainer.
if you want an honest story of human interaction and friendship told with humility and passion, do yourself a favor and read this.
ray chase is an incredible narrator
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- Don Ding
- 06-01-23
Jorbs is a great teacher
This tells the story of a streamer, but moreso the story of modern society and how we can make things better for our fellow humans.
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- Anonymous User
- 07-06-23
A genuine and insightful perspective on streaming
Story: Steven "Jorbs" Flavall leverages his years of expertise in strategy gaming to write a heartfelt and impactful narrative about the difficulties of establishing himself as a successful twitch streamer. He primarily describes his and others experiences at a professional gaming company and takes a look at a tech industry bankrolled by unapologetic, sexist, craven, capitalists. He gives an honest recounting of the human cost of having toxic manipulative people have control over others that is both acutely revealing of the darker side of the industry but also tragically commonplace in our day to day lives. As a long time Jorbs viewer I found it an instructive tale about the underlying motivation of how he manages the community. I think it has more general merits as a thoughtful narrative on how and why we should try to treat each other with respect and dignity.
Audio: The audiobook is narrated by Ray Chase who is a fan of the community and does the voice acting for Jorbs own Slay the Spire mod character. Ray does a great job speaking earnestly on some very difficult subjects and it is clear that he has reverence for both the material and the author. Absolutely worth a listen.
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- Anonymous User
- 05-14-23
Excellent
This book is a great peek behind the curtain of streaming. Very informative and enjoyable.
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- Nevin Kirk
- 11-04-23
Powerful and insightful
You don’t need to be familiar with jorbs’ content to be absolutely engrossed in this book. One of the most incredible books I’ve ever listened to and completely reshaped the way I think about sexism in male dominated fields and the streaming industry as a whole.
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