Too many DEI experts sound impressive but lack the depth to deliver real results.
And the chauffeur test is a quick way to spot them.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

1. Why chauffeur knowledge creates dangerous illusions of expertise.
2. How 3-book experts mislead leaders seeking real solutions.
3. Three ways to spot surface-level knowledge in DEI work.

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. Bad expertise costs more than just money—it costs trust and progress.
   
   • "It helps the people who hate DEI."
2. Real experts stand up to scrutiny, feedback, and real-world results.
   
   • "Answer tough, unscripted questions."
3. Not all experience translates into skill—so test, question, and verify.
   
   • "I like asking questions 2 levels down."

Check out these resources:

• Ryan Hopkins' Video – The inspiration for this episode

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