A Better War
The Unexamined Victories and Final Tragedy of America's Last Years in Vietnam
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Lewis Sorley
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Neglected by scholars and journalists alike, the years of conflict in Vietnam from 1968 to 1975 offer surprises not only about how the war was fought, but about what was achieved. Drawing on authoritative materials not previously available, including thousands of hours of tape-recorded allied councils of war, award-winning military historian Lewis Sorley has given us what has long been needed - an insightful, factual, and superbly documented history of these important years. Among his findings is that the war was being won on the ground even as it was being lost at the peace table and in the U.S. Congress. The story is a great human drama of purposeful and principled service in the face of an agonizing succession of lost opportunities, told with uncommon understanding and compassion. Sorley documents the dramatic differences in conception, conduct, and - at least for a time - results between the early and the later war. Meticulously researched and movingly told, A Better War is sure to stimulate controversy as it sheds brilliant new light on the war in Vietnam.
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From one of the most important army officers of his generation, a memoir of the revolution in warfare he helped lead, in combat and in Washington. When John Nagl was an army tank commander in the first Gulf War of 1991, fresh out of West Point and Oxford, he could already see that America’s military superiority meant that the age of conventional combat was nearing an end.
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In Israel and the West, it is called the Six Day War. In the Arab world, it is known as the June War or, simply, as "the Setback". Never has a conflict so short, unforeseen, and largely unwanted by both sides so transformed the world. The Yom Kippur War, the war in Lebanon, the Camp David accords, the controversy over Jerusalem and Jewish settlements in the West Bank, the intifada, and the rise of Palestinian terror are all part of the outcome of those six days.
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Great overview of Middle East troubles
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U.S. planning for the invasion and military occupation of Imperial Japan began two years before the dropping of atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hell to Pay brings to light the political and military ramifications of the enormous casualties and loss of material projected by both sides in the climatic struggle to bring the Pacific War to a conclusion through a brutal series of battles on Japanese soil.
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Unimpeachably sourced, Cobra II describes how the American rush to Baghdad provided the opportunity for the virulent insurgency that followed. The brutal aftermath in Iraq was not inevitable and was a surprise to the generals on both sides; Cobra II provides the first authoritative account as to why. It is a book of enduring importance and incisive analysis, a comprehensive account of the most reported yet least understood war in American history.
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Based on previously unavailable documents and interviews with more than 100 key players, including General David Petraeus, The Insurgents unfolds against the backdrop of two wars waged against insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan. But the main insurgency is the one led at home by a new generation of officers - including Petraeus, John Nagl, David Kilcullen, and H. R. McMaster - who were seized with an idea on how to fight these kinds of "small wars" and who adapted their enemies' techniques to overhaul their own army.
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The Doomsday Machine is Ellsberg's hair-raising insider's account of the most dangerous arms buildup in the history of civilization, whose legacy - and renewal under the Obama administration - threatens the very survival of humanity. It is scarcely possible to estimate the true dangers of our present nuclear policies without penetrating the secret realities of the nuclear strategy of the late Eisenhower and early Kennedy years, when Ellsberg had high-level access to them.
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From the former secretary of defense, a strikingly candid, vivid account of serving Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. When Robert M. Gates received a call from the White House, he thought he'd long left Washington politics behind: After working for six presidents in both the CIA and the National Security Council, he was happily serving as president of Texas A&M University. But when he was asked to help a nation mired in two wars and to aid the troops doing the fighting, he answered what he felt was the call of duty.
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The Fighting Season
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It was the first war we could not win. At no other time since World War II have two superpowers met in battle. Max Hastings, preeminent military historian, takes us back to the bloody, bitter struggle to restore South Korean independence after the Communist invasion of June 1950.
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Inspiring and Hard Hitting
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Nomonhan, 1939
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Stuart Goldman convincingly argues that a little-known, but intense, Soviet-Japanese conflict along the Manchurian- Mongolian frontier at Nomonhan influenced the outbreak of World War II and shaped the course of the war. The author draws on Japanese, Soviet, and western sources to put the seemingly obscure conflict - actually a small undeclared war - into its proper global geo-strategic perspective.The book describes how the Soviets, in response to a border conflict provoked by Japan, launched an offensive in August 1939 that wiped out the Japanese forces at Nomonhan.
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Nomonhan: Why Japan Demurred
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Before the First Shots Are Fired
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- By: Tony Koltz, Tony Zinni
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For the better part of the last half century, the United States has been the world's police, claiming to defend ideologies, allies, and our national security through brute force. But is military action always the most appropriate response? Drawing on his vast experience, retired four-star general Tony Zinni argues that we have a lot of work to do to make the process of going to war-or not-more clear-eyed and ultimately successful.
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A must read for leaders
- By Ted on 06-17-22
By: Tony Koltz, and others
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- Amazon Customer
- 07-24-18
Solid Audiobook!
This book enhanced my understanding of the decisions of key military and political leaders during the Vietnam War. You will hear yourself saying, what if, a lot.
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- Tracy Nelson
- 08-03-21
The Part Ken Burns Chose to Hide Away
This book is a must read/listen for anyone trying understand the American experience in Vietnam. It doesn’t fit in the liberal historical narrative about the war, but shows it’s authenticity via its wide array of sources. It echoes what several older friends and relatives who served there after Tet 1968. A war on the brink of total victory, yet the White House and Congress did everything they could to tie our military down, and condemn South Vietnam to communism.
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- John
- 04-15-14
A Better Book!
What did you love best about A Better War?
I have never, in many member reviews, rated any Book as a % star, rxcepting this one! Not only is it a terrific story, it is read with feeling. As a Marine Vet I follow Vietbam History very closely. This one is not to be missed. Most revealing. Great Book that should be read by all Historians & the public as a whole. It paints an impressive story to much unpublished materials on this era. I am so glaad I fell into it. NDJohn
What did you like best about this story?
Listening to the Veitnam War tume frame of 1969 to 1971. Plus about Nixon. All Vets will enjoy this Book.
Which character – as performed by Basil Sands – was your favorite?
General Abrams by far! He gave me renewed hope.
Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?
Yes, the Oh so sad ending!
Any additional comments?
Please give this Book some attention, NDJohn
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- Rick
- 09-22-15
Old war, fresh view
This book was assigned college reading material, but it quickly became a book I was eager to read.
It was refreshing to read about Vietnam from the viewpoint of the warfighters, the people who actually saw everything as it was. This book is not steeped in political opinions but rather reads the facts straight from extensive research.
I learned a lot about Vietnam and highly recommend this book to everyone.
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- john
- 03-27-16
Great read
Where does A Better War rank among all the audiobooks you’ve listened to so far?
One of the best recollections of the Vietnam War I've ever read.
What other book might you compare A Better War to and why?
It's hard to think of a comparison.
Have you listened to any of Basil Sands’s other performances before? How does this one compare?
No.
Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?
Yes.
Any additional comments?
Too many parallels to what is happening today. Where have all the war fighters gone? If one is in fact, a slave to the rules of war, he will surely fail and the young men and women in our military will, once again, suffer the consequences.
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- Jackson Simon
- 02-12-15
well researched and well told
It's an excellent work about an obscure period that the author has obviously mastered. I high it recommend it for those seeking a different perspective than the traditional Vietnam account.
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- james jones
- 01-25-14
Good book!
Would you recommend this audiobook to a friend? If so, why?
I read the book a few years ago in hardcopy.
I was in Vietnam in ’69 & ’70 [ at IFFV HQ ] and can confirm that most everything Bob Sorely writes is “spot on.” If you want to know why the Vietnam War was as good as won, but went wrong in the end, read this well-researched book.
HOWEVER – Don’t get the audio enhancement for Kindle! (~$4 extra⁉) It doesn’t work & is a waste of money.
The vanilla Kindle version (no audio) is fine.
As I said, this is a good book. 5 stars.
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- Xena' Mom
- 10-19-23
New information and angle of thought
Very informative from a different point of view. I honor the military. As for the politicians, karma will settle the score.
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- Rodney W. Schmisseur
- 02-05-14
A thought-provoking history of the war 68-75
What made the experience of listening to A Better War the most enjoyable?
The story is well written and Basil Sands renders a solid performance that is captivating and leads you through a complicated story with a number of pivotal events, Tet, Tet2, the logistical war into Cambodia and Laos, Quang Tri, the Cease-Fire, the "peace", and the downfall. Each is well told, and tied together nicely to explain why the war "after Cronkite" turned out the way it did.
What other book might you compare A Better War to and why?
In the introduction to the book, Sorley himself compares his work to Stanley Carnow's Vietnam: A History. Sorley's A Better War deals essentially with what was Nixon's war, the Geneva peace accords, and the abandonment of an ally under Ford and the post-Watergate congress.. Carnow's focus is on Johnson, Kennedy and earlier.
Have you listened to any of Basil Sands’s other performances before? How does this one compare?
This was my first experience with Basil Sand. Overall a very solid performance. I struggled with Henry Kissinger quotes in a de regueur German-accent -- too cliche, almost denigrating, but then his personification of General Abrams seemed to register -- part John Wayne, part Norman Schwarzkopf. I confess I've never heard an Abrams speech, but the tone and accent resonated. I can't have it both ways, so I'll give the performance a deserved credit -- it's captivating and well-paced.
Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?
The story of the "making of the peace" and the realization that domestic politics and a divided nation that seemly had grown tired of everything remotely associated with the war sold the South down the river with an agreement that not only surrendered everything that had been gained between 1968 and 1972 but essentially paved the way for the NVA conquest in 1975. Abrams truly deserved a better war -- he had delivered something desperately close to victory only to see it sold to Watergate politics and moral fatigue. We come out as a decidedly flawed ally in the fight against communism.
Any additional comments?
I found myself going back and relistening to the chapters covering the success of American-supported Vietnamization -- the interdiction of the Ho Chi Mihn trail in Cambodia and Laos in 1970-71 and how that essentially dictated the NVA reaction in 1972. The storyline leads the reader through the events one-by-one and shows how each event became interconnected with the eventual outcome.
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- Brian
- 10-04-20
The rest of the story
At the very beginning the author addresses the myopia of the current understanding of Vietnam. Most of the popular books and movies on the war like Best and the Brightest and Platoon etc cover the road to war up to around Tet. There's much less covering the latter part of the war. I can think of a few reasons why but this is so but this book does fill in the rest of the story. It does challenge some of the popular notions of the war. This book gets me thinking a lot more some parallels from Iraq and Afghanistan.
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