When kids' football takes over your life

This week, Ben and Mike are joined by Mike's wife and Raph's mum... Estelle Clark, for a refreshingly honest conversation about what it’s like when your family signs up for grassroots football… and it takes over your life.

Estelle opens up about the good, the stressful and the downright ridiculous: from losing weekends to social plans ruined by tournaments. She talks parenting guilt, football obsession and learning what “lock on” means.

She explains how she flopped as kit manager, how Mike’s role as assistant coach brought him closer to Raph and how he’s grown as both a dad and a coach.

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