"If you know how a PBM gets paid, that's the best transparency you can ask for.” - Julie Wasserman

Julie Wasserman, VP of Sales for VerusRx, joined me this week to discuss the PBM industry in 2025. If you’re a PBM, how do you gain trust with employers and build plans that work for them? We talk about what every PBM should be doing for their employers, what true transparency looks like, how to reach employees directly through software, and how GLP1s are changing the industry.

If you’re a PBM or work with them, or are just curious about one of the biggest industries in healthcare, make sure to tune in this week to Self-Funded with Spencer to hear from Julie on what the best practices need to look like.

Chapters:

00:00:00 What The PBM Industry Should Focus On In 2025 | with Julie Wasserman
00:15:07 Increasing Employee Engagement
00:20:16 Complexity in the PBM Industry
00:25:03 Data-Driven Health Savings for Employers
00:31:27 What Does True Transparency Look Like
00:49:36 Global Drug Price Discrepancies
00:56:38 Incentivizing Cost-Effective Healthcare Decisions in PBMs
01:01:11 Financial Risks of Covering GLP1s for Weight Loss

Key Links for Social:

@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded

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