In this episode of Typology, I sit down with Chris Janssen, a USA Today best-selling author and board-certified coach, to explore the intersection of the Enneagram, recovery, and personal growth. Chris, an Enneagram 4, shares her journey of sobriety and the insights she gained from her experiences.

Together, we discuss the unique challenges that Enneagram 4s face, particularly in relation to addiction and the feeling of being different. Chris opens up about her struggles with self-acceptance and the importance of grace in the recovery process.

Tune in as we dive into:

• The role of the Enneagram in understanding addiction

• The significance of grace on the recovery journey

• How to navigate criticism and self-worth as a creative

• The power of community in recovery settings

Whether you're familiar with the Enneagram or just starting your journey, this episode offers valuable insights into embracing your true self and finding healing.

Don't forget to check out Chris's new book, "Grace Yourself: How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want," available wherever books are sold.

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May you have love, joy, peace, healing, and rest. Until next time!

Connect with Chris Janssen here: www.chrisjanssencoaching.com

How do our early stories shape who we become, and what would it look like to embrace healing and grace along the way?

In this heartfelt episode of Typology, we welcome Melanie Shankle, an Enneagram 9 with an 8 wing and author of Here Be Dragons: Treading the Deep Waters of Motherhood, Mean Girls, and Generational Trauma.

Melanie opens up about the impact of a turbulent childhood, the people-pleasing patterns that followed, and what it took for her to confront her past with honesty and compassion. Together, we explore how writing her book became a profound path of self-understanding and generational healing.

Whether you’re reflecting on your own childhood, parenting, or your inner growth as an adult, this honest and hopeful conversation invites you to embrace grace, compassion, and deeper self-awareness.

Tune in and discover that healing often begins when we dare to face the stories we thought we had to hide.

This week on Typology, I sat down with the brilliant and buoyant Margaret Feinberg—author, teacher, and Enneagram 7 with an 8 wing.

We talked about her new book, The God You Need to Know, and what it means to experience the Holy Spirit’s presence—not just in the highs of life, but in the valleys too. Margaret opened up about facing surgery just before her book launch, navigating the exhaustion that comes with being “on” all the time, and how her joy had to be redefined in the midst of cancer.

We also explored how ADHD traits can show up in Enneagram Sevens, what it’s like being married to a Type 5, and how learning to rest isn’t easy when you live in a world that never slows down. Margaret also offered a fresh perspective on the Holy Spirit—not just in the New Testament, but throughout Scripture.

It’s a conversation about joy that makes room for sorrow, faith that’s been through the fire, and a Spirit who meets us in the mess.

As you listen, take a moment to consider:

• What does true rest look like for you?

• Has your understanding of the Holy Spirit grown or shifted over time?

• Can you recall a time when joy and suffering existed side by side in your story?