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We’ve made salvation too easy—and that’s not a compliment.

We’ve told people they’re saved because they repeated a few words or raised their hands during a worship song. But salvation was never meant to be a spiritual transaction—it’s a total surrender. If your faith never demanded anything of you… are you sure it’s real?

In this episode, I break down why saying you're a Christian isn’t the same as following Christ. We’ll unpack repentance, surrender, discipleship, and the evidence that salvation actually happened—fruit. This isn’t about perfection. It’s about transformation.

This is the first part of a two-part series on salvation—what it’s not, and what it must be if you’re serious about following Jesus.

What I cover in this episode:

• Why asking for forgiveness isn’t the finish line
• What happens when the Gospel gets reduced to a pitch
• The connection between Lordship and fruit
• What’s missing in so many altar calls
• Why a Christian life without change isn’t Christian at all

⏱ Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction: What to Look for in Your Next Church and Pastor
00:13 – The Sinner's Prayer: An Overview
00:52 – Critique of the Sinner's Prayer
02:24 – The Biblical Perspective on Salvation
12:15 – The Importance of Repentance
15:36 – Transformation and Sanctification
20:01 – Conclusion: The True Call to Follow Jesus
22:41 – Final Thoughts and Call to Action

📖 Key Scriptures
Romans 10:9 | Matthew 7:21–23 | Luke 9:57–62 | Galatians 2:20 | John 15:4–5 | Matthew 16:24–25 | 1 Peter 1:14–16 | Romans 12:1 | Galatians 5:22–25

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What should a real pastor look like?

In this episode, I sit down with my own pastor, Jared Verwiel of Tulsa Bible Church, to cut through the spiritual posturing and power games that infect far too many pulpits. We talk real ministry — not performance, not personality cults, and definitely not spiritual manipulation. Just biblical shepherding.

This conversation isn’t theory. It’s raw insight from someone in the trenches — and a reminder that not every church is a circus. Some pastors still preach the Word and carry the weight of souls with reverent fear.

🔹 Topics include:
– Spiritual abuse and church hurt
– The human side of pastoral ministry
– What shepherding really means
– Why non-denominational doesn’t mean unaccountable
– When church leadership goes toxic

📖 Key Scriptures:
1 Peter 5:2–3 – “Shepherd the flock of God that is among you… not domineering over those in your charge.”
John 10:11 – “I am the good shepherd…”

00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Sermon
00:31 Welcome to The Saved For Later Podcast
00:40 Finding a New Church
00:59 Interview with Pastor Jared Verwiel
06:13 Pastoral Ministry and Responsibilities
07:43 Non-Denominational Church Dynamics
12:35 Handling Church Conflicts
23:25 Sunday Sermon Preparation
35:55 Navigating Multiple Teaching Pastors
36:15 The Pastor's Testimony
37:41 Discovering Faith in College
41:49 Journey to Ministry
45:29 Seminary Experience and Education
50:00 The Importance of Church Community
57:12 Unity in the Church
01:07:52 The Call to Pastoral Ministry
01:13:02 Final Thoughts and Farewell

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Thinking about going back to church? Or stepping into one for the first time? Slow down — this episode might save you from walking into a spiritual trap.

There are a thousand churches that look good on the outside but are spiritually bankrupt on the inside. This episode tackles the uncomfortable truth: not every church that uses the name of Jesus actually teaches His gospel. We’ll talk about how to spot spiritual entertainment vs. genuine biblical discipleship, and why “just trying church” isn’t enough if your soul’s at stake.

🔹 Topics include:
– Why your eternity demands a wise church choice
– What the New Testament actually says about the church
– Red flags in the modern Western church
– Why symptom management is not the gospel
– How to pursue long-term transformation over quick fixes

📖 Key Scriptures:
Matthew 28:18–20 – The Great Commission
Romans 12:4–5 – The Body of Christ
Revelation 21:2 – The Bride of Christ

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Valerie Duran shouldn’t be alive. Her blood pressure was so high, doctors didn’t expect her to survive the stroke — let alone speak again, walk again, or teach teenagers about the gospel. But God had other plans.

In this raw and powerful interview, Valerie shares her medical trauma, spiritual journey, and the slow, miraculous road back to life, faith, and purpose. This isn’t a polished testimony. It’s a survivor’s honest account of brokenness, shame, hope, and transformation — and how suffering brought her face-to-face with Christ.

🔹 Topics include:
– Life after a massive hemorrhagic stroke
– Losing speech, memory, and independence
– The painful return to faith through disability
– How God used her healing to reach others
– The unlikely journey from victim to ministry

📖 Key Scriptures:
Romans 5:3–5 – “Suffering produces endurance… character… hope.”
2 Corinthians 12:9 – “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”
Psalm 73:26 – “My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart…”

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Forgiveness isn’t optional. It’s not a nice suggestion or a spiritual upgrade for the super-devoted. According to Scripture, it’s the dividing line between those who follow Christ and those who don’t.

In this episode, I expose why our refusal to forgive usually isn’t about the offense — it’s about our lack of faith in God’s justice. We want control. We want revenge. But God wants obedience. If you're still holding onto that wound, that betrayal, or that grudge, this episode may hurt a little… but it might save your soul.

🔹 Topics include:
– Why forgiveness is a faith issue, not just an emotional one
– What Scripture actually says about forgiving enemies
– The difference between justification and sanctification
– Why “I’ll never forgive them” is a statement you should fear
– Practical steps for walking through forgiveness without compromise

📖 Key Scriptures:
Matthew 6:14–15, Matthew 5:44–45, Acts 3:19, Romans 12:19, Ephesians 4:22–24

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We’ve all heard it — “Christianity would be great if not for all the Christians.” In this episode, I face that accusation head-on… because it’s not entirely wrong.

This isn’t just about bad behavior. It’s about biblical ignorance, spiritual laziness, and a culture of easy answers that turns Christians into walking contradictions. If we don’t read the Word, test the spirits, or know the real Jesus, we end up worshiping a god of our own invention — and giving ammunition to every skeptic watching us.

This episode exposes how false teachers and lazy disciples fuel the world’s hatred of the church — and why knowing your Bible is the only way to change the story.

🔹 Topics include:
– The real source of anti-Christian hostility
– False teachers and spiritual counterfeits
– Why Christians themselves often defame the name of Jesus
– How to recognize deception in the church
– The #1 rule of Christianity — and why we keep breaking it

📖 Key Scriptures:
Matthew 24:4–5, Romans 16:17–18, 2 Corinthians 11:13–15, 1 John 4:1, Jeremiah 23:26–40

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Some people lose everything—and somehow still praise God.
This episode explores why.

In a world addicted to comfort and terrified of pain, many churches quietly teach that “faith” means life gets better. But that’s not biblical. That’s a lie. What happens when suffering comes anyway? What happens when the storm doesn’t pass?

In this raw episode, I unpack what real joy looks like in the life of a true believer. Not fake joy. Not social-media smiles. Not shallow theology built on clichés. Real, unshakable joy rooted in something eternal.

We’ll also witness one of the most powerful modern examples of Christian endurance I’ve ever seen. It’ll stop you in your tracks.

🔸 Why joy isn’t the same as happiness
🔸 How prosperity theology sets people up to lose their faith
🔸 Where real hope is found—even in grief
🔸 What Jesus actually promised (and didn’t)
🔸 And how the Gospel gives us joy that survives the fire

⏱️ Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction and Housekeeping
01:11 – The Misconception of Prosperity Theology
03:31 – True Joy in Faith and God's Promises
08:03 – Biblical Examples of Endurance and Joy
16:11 – Modern Example of Faith Amidst Tragedy
25:13 – Conclusion and Call to Action

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This is the episode I’ve been waiting to share — the story of how a lifelong atheist, proud of his rebellion and certain of his intellect, came to believe that Jesus Christ is exactly who He said He was.

I wasn’t looking for God. I was too busy selling lies, chasing ego, and mocking Christians. But God broke through anyway. In this episode, I walk you through the moments that shook me awake — from a bumper sticker at a stoplight to an unexpected phone call that cracked my heart wide open.

This is not just a testimony. It’s a challenge to anyone who thinks Christianity is irrational, emotional, or blind. Because for me, coming to faith meant confronting every argument I once used to avoid the truth.

🔹 Topics include:
– My descent into pride, performance, and spiritual emptiness
– The unexpected signs that forced me to reconsider
– Why atheism eventually broke down under its own weight
– How God used reason, not religion, to break through
– What finally made me say yes to Jesus

📖 Key Scriptures:
Mark 5:19–20, Romans 1:20, John 6:44

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