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The Sales Japan Series

The Sales Japan Series

De: Dr. Greg Story
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The vast majority of salespeople are just pitching the features of their solutions and doing it the hard way. They are throwing mud up against the wall and hoping it will stick. Hope by the way is not much of a strategy. They do it this way because they are untrained. Even if their company won't invest in training for them, this podcast provides hundreds of episodes with information, insights and techniques all based on solid real world experience selling in Japan. Trying to work it out by yourself is possible but why take the slow and difficult route to sales success? Tap into the structure, methodologies, tips and techniques needed to be successful in sales in Japan. In addition to the podcast the best selling book Japan Sales Mastery and its Japanese translation Za Eigyo are also available as well.Copyright 2022 Economía Gestión Gestión y Liderazgo
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  • Nemawashi Is Gold When Selling In Japan
    Jun 17 2025

    I hear some people say translating terms like “nemawashi” into English is difficult. Really? I always thought it was one of the easier ones. Let's just call it “groundwork”. In fact, that is a very accurate description ,from a number of different angles. Japanese gardeners are superstars. There is limited flat space in this country, so over centuries gardeners have worked out you need to move the trees you want, to where you want them. They prefer this approach to just waiting thirty years for them to turn out the preferred way. It is not unusual today to see a huge tree on the back of a big truck ,being moved from one location to another and presto instant garden. The roots of that massive tree will be wrapped up in cloth to protect them. That wrapping process is called “nemawashi”. In business, it means being well prepared for the business meeting – doing the ground work beforehand.

    In a Western context being well prepared for the meeting will mean assembling all the data and analysis in order to make an impassioned plea for your idea or suggestion, to be accepted by the big bosses. We all get to the meeting, listen to the different approaches and we make a decision in that meeting. What could be more time efficient and logical? They never do it that way in Japan.

    Concepts of time efficiency differ for a start and throwing massive amounts of overtime at a problem is not problem in Japan. The meeting is also a ceremony, because the decision has already been arrived at beforehand and the gathering is just to formalise the outcome. This happens in the West too. Whenever you see global leaders delivering their joint statements or signing agreements, they didn’t arrive at the wording during the meeting. That was all worked out by their minions beforehand, over many hours of debate, negotiation and discussion. The TV cameras just capture the big guys and gals inking the document, after all the “groundwork” has been completed.

    I was talking with a Western businessman recently and he was relating how hard it was to get the team behind his ideas. The issue was, he was trying to get it all agreed to, at the key meeting and hadn’t invested the time to do the groundwork. What he needed to do was go to see all the key people, the influencers, the stakeholders with a vested interest and explain the idea. Get their input and agreement and then rinse and repeat with the rest of them. By the time the meeting happens, everyone will recognise parts of their preferences and ideas in the submission. Agreement flows easily in these cases.

    In sales, we will probably not have direct access to all of the decision makers, influencers and stakeholders. Our primary contact has to become our champion for sheparding the agreement through the internal nemawashi process. Asking them directly who are these hidden decision makers is insulting. It says, you are a nobody, but I still need your help. We need to be more considerate of their “face” and ask in a way that enhances their face.

    Once we have established the trust, have uncovered their needs, shown we can help and have dealt with any hesitations they may have, we are ready to marshal our forces for the final push through to a “yes” to the sale. We explain, we understand that many people will be interested to know about this change in the delivery of product or services. We also know that they will be tasked to explain it to others who cannot join our meetings. We ask how can we help them? This is a rhetorical question because we want to get into the detail of who are the players. So we go straight into asking who do they think would have the most concern about the change and why they would be concerned? We keep repeating this process until we have fleshed out the people who will have the most interest in saying “no”. The next stage is to arm our champion with the tools to deal with the pushback. We try to understand the concerns and then arrive at creative ways of overcoming those concerns.

    This is what we mean by nemawashi or ground work. Is it time consuming – yes! Do we have to invest the extra time – yes! There is an internal logic to the way decisions are made in Japan. There is no point railing about how the Japanese business decision making process should be Westernised, so it is more familiar for us. That is never going to happen, so we need to be better and more flexible to understand the system and then become a master of influence within it. We need to become the nemawashi maestro!

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  • The Three Barbers Of Minato
    Jun 10 2025
    Minato-ku or the “Port Area” is a central part of Tokyo, which used to be harbourside for goods being delivered to the capital in ancient times. My three barbers’ stories are tales of customer service opportunities gone astray, in a country where customer service is the envy of the rest of the world. Each story brings forth a reflection on our own customer service and how we treat our buyers. My apologies to Gioachino Rossini for lifting the title idea for this piece from his famous opera. Barber Number One worked in a men’s barber shop in the Azabu Juban shopping street which I frequented (and took my son too), for fifteen years. During that time a number of different barbers there took care of my hair as they came and went. One day, while trimming the hair on the back of my neck, the electric razor must have had a fault, because he cut my skin where he had been shaving my neck. My wife, being a typical demanding Japanese consumer, was appalled by this poor customer service and went there to complain about how they were treating her husband. Me being a laid back Aussie, I didn’t raise a fuss myself, but that didn’t stop my missus from wading in. The youngish barber decided to argue the point with my wife and wasn’t immediately forthcoming with a satisfactory apology. My wife showed the offending damage on the photos on her phone and wasn’t backing off. One of the more senior barbers intervened and made the apology on behalf of the shop. Did that satisfy her? Not in the least. Why? Because she didn’t feel it was a sincere apology. She told me I should never attend that establishment again. The lifetime value of a regular customer is high, especially in a crowded market. There was a management issue there because the service culture wasn’t correct. The interesting thing I understood was that barbers are hard to recruit these days, because not so many people want to join the trade. They felt they could afford to lose me as a regular over fifteen years or more but they couldn’t afford to lose the barber. The point though is where do you draw the line around the culture of your service? What are you saying is acceptable behaviour to the other staff? When things go wrong, this is when the real culture of your organisation is revealed. Barber Number Two belonged to a well known chain of successful barber shops and was introduced by my wife as an appropriate alternative to the previous bloodthirsty razor wielding maniac she disapproved of. I wasn’t all that keen on this Roppongi establishment, once Covid-19 hit, because it was a rather confined space. In the centre of Tokyo, a lot of companies are using what were once apartments as business premises, so the layout and size can be quite small. Having trained this young guy on how I like my hair done, I persevered, Covid or otherwise. I called to make an appointment only to be told he had been transferred to one of their shops on the outskirts of Tokyo. Staff movements happen, but how we handle them is another matter. Did my barber call me and introduce his successor? No. How expensive would that have been? Again, no one was thinking about the lifetime value of the customer here. I had invested in educating him about what I liked and so I would not switch easily unless I had to. This is another management failure, where handovers are not being properly choreographed. Customer continuity has a distinct value to it. Barber Number Three is my new barber and belongs to a shop which has been continuously operating on that same spot for the last 203 years, again in the Azabu Juban area. It must be the oldest barber shop in Japan and probably the world. The young guy cutting my hair showed me to the chair and started asking me about how I liked my hair done. Red flag there. He didn’t introduce himself to me, and I had to ask him for his name. Why would that be the case? I asked him about the history of the shop and it was clear he didn’t know much beyond it was 203 years old. He didn't know if they had famous people over that time as customers. I asked him how they traditionally cut hair in Japan, before western scissors arrived in the Meiji era – he had no idea. So, this was really just the same as any other barber shop, because the management has not educated their staff about the heritage value of their offer. I was a new client, so here was the chance to make me a permanent client. In a sea of so many competing establishments, I thought what a waste of an opportunity to differentiate themselves, beyond just having a sign in the window, that says they are over 200 years old. There was no narrative around that fact, no great stories attached to it, no buzz, no particular vibe. The common theme across these stories is how to differentiate your service in highly competitive industries. There were also poor levels of understanding about the lifetime value ...
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  • Create Reference Points For Clients
    Jun 3 2025
    There is no doubt that the pandemic has made it very fraught to find new clients in Japan. The new variants of the virus are much more contagious and have already overwhelmed the hospital infrastructure in Osaka, in just weeks of the numbers taking off. Vaccines are slow to roll out and so extension after extension of lockdowns and basic fear on both sides, makes popping around for chat with the client unlikely. We forget how much we give up in terms of reading and expressing nuanced ideas through not having access to body language. Yes, we can see each other on screen, but it just isn’t the same. In this situation, which looks to be scheduled to last until early 2022, we have to work on new skills. We know about storytelling, word pictures and refined word selection for better communication. Knowing about it and doing it though, are ridiculously different. I know, because we teach this stuff. I can explain the formulas and the methodologies and the class participants get it, but doing it is often a struggle. Obviously practice with strong coaching is the cure. We will be beginning our conversation with a client online and this could be a new client or more likely, a new person down at the client’s company, as every April the wheel of fortune is spun and the HR department nominates who goes where. The explanation of who we are and what we do and why you should deal with me (and by extension my firm) is a critical juncture. Jumping straight into the product catalogue tour is dumb. This made little sense when we were sitting knee to knee, but makes absolutely no sense when we are screens apart. Instead, we need to get their permission to ask cogent questions, which will ultimately unveil needs. There is a simple formula for doing this, so there is no excuse why every salesperson should not be doing this. Firstly we need to explain who we are and what we do. This is a great opportunity to build your firm’s credibility with the client. We shouldn’t forget to weave our history into the narrative and make it personal. This is not a history lesson on the company but a base on which to build trust and we have to make sure we are represented in this part of the storytelling. For example, “We are global soft skills training experts and Dale Carnegie launched the company in New York in 1912. The fact that ninety percent of the Fortune 500 companies use us, shows that the most discerning firms recognise the value we bring. We have stood the harsh test of time globally and in Japan too, since we established operations here in 1963. We are way beyond all of that ‘it is American so it won’t work in Japan’ stuff, as we have localised the content and 80% of our delivery in in Japanese. I have been with the firm for the last eleven years and have seen the impact our training has across all industries”. In this forty second burst we have packed the content to the gunnels with credibility statements and emotive words. This initial reference point tells the buyer we are a safe option. “Nobody got fired for choosing Dale Carnegie Training” type of idea. Next, we tell a story about a client. They had a certain issue, preferably one we think might be shared by this client and we explain the solution applied and the result achieved in a very micro and brief manner. We emphasise the pain this problem was causing for a particular decisionmaker inside the company, someone in a similar position or role to our interlocutor. We briefly explain what we did and then we dwell on the perceived value of the solution formed from the client’s point of view. We should bring back pieces of their dialogue with us, to fully express their happiness that the problem was fixed, so that the buyer we are in front of on screen, will have confidence in our suggestions. This is a reference point for the client that we can help them. Finally, we say, “Maybe we could do the same for you. I am not sure, but in order to find out, may I ask a few questions”. And then we say nothing. Wait until they speak – don’t add, or clarify, just sit there in total silence until they give an answer. Once we have their permission, then we can dig in and see if we have a solution for their problem. This is a reference point that says the buyer is now willing to share a lot of confidential information with us. If we don’t get a match between what we do and what they need, then no slamming of the square peg into the round hole – we get off that call and we hold another potential business discussion with another buyer. The pandemic has made the whole art and science of selling more complex, but there are some fundamental basics we have to get right or nothing will go our way. Business is hard to find at the moment, but never find bad business – the money won’t be worth the trouble and you only tarnish your personal and professional brands. There are plenty of clients ...
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