Leadership under pressure is no joke. Pastors Leonce Crump and Joby Martin open up about the weight of responsibility—when betrayal, exhaustion, and doubt threaten to take you out. Leonce shares about seasons of heartbreak that nearly broke him, and Joby talks about burnout, even in a thriving ministry. This isn’t just about pushing through—it’s about leaning into Jesus when you’re running on empty.

What keeps you in the fight? Joby almost walked away from ministry, ready to sell caskets instead—until his wife nudged him to give it one more shot. Matt shares about hitting a wall, realizing he was leading from fumes instead of fresh conviction. And Leonce? He found renewal not just in faith, but in reconnecting with the outdoors and rediscovering the things that replenish his soul.

How do you stay grounded in public life? These guys talk about balancing leadership with raising kids, protecting their families from unfair expectations, and keeping their faith real. If you’re feeling worn out or wondering how to keep going, this conversation is for you.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

• Pastoral Leaders Discuss Resilience and Overcoming
• Leaders Embrace Growth and Restoration
• Navigating Public Life and Family Pressure
• Balancing Ministry and Family Life
• Ministry Shift

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Family life is messy—loud, exhausting, and often overwhelming. But the everyday moments—car rides, meals, bedtime—can be sacred opportunities to point our kids to Jesus.

This week on the Overcomers Podcast, I sit down with Adam Griffin, author and host of the Family Discipleship Podcast, to talk about leading our families in grace, not perfection. Adam shares his struggles with impatience and how embracing our weaknesses can deepen our parenting.

We unpack simple but powerful practices—like the driveway prayer to reset before stepping inside, the sacredness of family meals, and the importance of consistency in shaping faith. And in a world where screens are discipling our kids faster than we are, Adam offers wisdom on keeping them engaged, guarding their hearts, and staying united as parents.

You don’t have to be a perfect parent—just present, humble, and faithful.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

• Parenting Challenges and Cultivating Humility
• Serving and Loving Imperfectly
• Home Formation Through Routines and Milestones
• Fostering Family Connection Through Communication
• Navigating Different Parenting Philosophies
• Navigating Technological Challenges in Parenting
• Parenting with Community

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Communio is not another program. It’s a non-profit organization that comes alongside churches, training and equipping them to evangelize through the renewal of healthy relationships, marriages, and the family. Family structure is key for passing on faith to children, yet 72 percent of churches lack significant relationship ministry. That’s where Communio comes in. Communio has worked with hundreds of churches across the country. These churches have seen divorce rates drop – attendance rise – weekly generosity increase – and marriage and family bonds restored.

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Thanks for tuning in to another episode of The Overcomers. In this episode, I’m joined by Kim Zember, whose journey with Jesus shows the messy, beautiful reality of sanctification. Growing up in a Christian home in Southern California, Kim had some transformative encounters with Jesus, but her path hasn’t always been straightforward.

We dive into the challenges Kim faced growing up—especially her early view of God as this authoritative figure, which led to a legalistic way of thinking. There’s a lot to unpack when it comes to understanding who we are in Christ, and for Kim, the journey wasn’t a straight line. We talk about the moments that shook her understanding of herself, her faith, and her sexuality—especially navigating feelings and desires she had that seemed counter to who she believed she truly was.

This episode is a reminder that God’s love and grace are bigger than our struggles, and no matter where we are, we can always turn toward Him. Join us for an honest, powerful conversation about faith, identity, and transformation.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

• Navigating Gender Identity and Relationships
• The Struggle With Self-Identity and Faith
• Encountering God's Healing and Love
• Embracing Imperfection and God’s Grace Through Relational Faith
• Finding Grace and Growth

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