This week, Kevin and Laura sit down with seasoned entrepreneur and executive leader Haresh Bhungalia. With over two decades of experience building, scaling, and exiting successful companies, Haresh shares the journey that led him from a paper route to leading Casepoint, a major player in the eDiscovery space.

Haresh walks us through Casepoint’s growth story, the biggest challenges he faced scaling the company, and the factors that drove its success. We dive into Casepoint’s recent merger with OPEXUS, backed by Thoma Bravo, and discuss why Haresh chose this moment, after years of resisting outside funding, to make the move. He also opens up about stepping down as CEO, choosing new leadership, and what's next for him, hinting at everything from startup investing to maybe even sailing off into the sunset. Beyond his personal story, Haresh offers powerful insights into the future of legal tech, how leaders can stay aligned with customer needs, and his best advice for founders scaling teams or navigating the tricky balance between aggressive growth and strategic reflection. Plus, Kevin and Laura share their dreams of running an AI company or a grocery store.

You won’t want to miss this conversation packed with leadership lessons, well-earned advice, and a glimpse into the future of eDiscovery.

Haresh Bhungalia is a seasoned entrepreneur and CEO with over 20 years of executive leadership experience. He has a proven track record of building, scaling, and successfully exiting businesses. As a strategic leader, Haresh is dedicated to driving customer growth, enhancing engagement, and fostering a company culture based on trust, transparency, and mutual respect. He strongly believes that prioritizing the employee experience leads to superior customer outcomes and, ultimately, greater value creation. His most recent exit was Casepoint, an enterprise data discovery platform, which was successfully sold to private equity firm Thoma Bravo.

This week on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin sit down with tech veteran and AI thought leader Ken Gavranovic, CEO of Product Genius, for a lively and insightful conversation that spans AI, ethics, innovation and pop culture.

Ken opens up about his challenging childhood, sharing how it sparked a passion for technology and a desire to build tools that could truly make a difference, much like the kid in the movie War Games. From early fumbles in fax software that made others millions but netted him nothing to working with tech giants like Disney and 7-Eleven, Ken walks us through his evolution into the AI space and why he believes AI will have the most substantial impact on humanity.

We talk about ethical AI and data privacy, especially when it comes to children and younger audiences, how to leverage AI insights without drowning in data and the key contrasts in AI adoption between big corporations and smaller businesses. Laura and Ken geek out about functional health, from UV-cap water bottles to proactive blood testing to the very real fears (ahem, Laura) about robot uprisings from a tangent on the movie Smart House, the series Cassandra and The Terminator movies. Plus, we discuss recycled toilet paper and sustainability with a shoutout to Who Gives a Crap, and wrap things up with a peek into Ken’s Amazon best-seller, Business Breakthrough 3.0, a must-read for any leader navigating digital transformation. Tune in for an episode that’s smart, human, and just the right amount of tech-weird.

Ken Gavranovic is a global keynote speaker, a seasoned technology executive, and the CEO of Product Genius, where he leads the development of AI-powered tools that transform real-time data into actionable customer insights, driving service improvements and operational efficiency. With over two decades of experience, Ken has helped businesses—from startups to global brands like Disney World and 7-Eleven—leverage cutting-edge tech to achieve measurable results. He has led 18 successful exits, 35 mergers and acquisitions, and an IPO, and has held key executive roles at New Relic and Cox Automotive. A global keynote speaker and member of Thinkers50 and the Forbes Council, Ken is also a co-author of the Amazon best-seller Business Breakthrough 3.0, a practical guide for leaders navigating digital transformation and scaling operations.

In our final segment of our Legalweek series, Laura and Kevin hit the floor to chat with two folks from Verbit - Matan Barak, Head of Legal Products and JP Son, Chief Legal Officer, for an insightful dive into the evolution of AI in legal transcription and the broader implications for the industry.

We first hear their origin story, being founded with the mission to make transcription more efficient, accessible, and intelligent. They share how the company emerged from the need for faster, more accurate transcription services, especially in high-stakes environments like the legal world. As the conversation turns toward AI, we learn how machine learning is transforming transcription, enhancing turnaround times, enabling real-time insights, and supporting legal professionals with features like inconsistency detection, intelligent search, and summarization through Verbit's Legal Visor.

But with great power comes great responsibility. they address growing concerns around deepfakes and misinformation, explaining how Verbit ensures the authenticity and accuracy of its AI-assisted transcriptions with rigorous quality checks and compliance protocols. Matan sheds light on how Verbit’s models are trained to understand regional dialects and legal-specific jargon, ensuring that nuance is never lost, even in complex, technical discussions. The pair also tackle the hot topic: Will AI replace human court reporters?

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of legal tech, AI, and the future of court reporting.

Matan Barak is the Head of Legal Products at Verbit, with over a decade of experience leading AI-driven solutions to market. He played a key role in conceptualizing and developing Verbit Legal Visor, a real-time intelligence platform for litigators that enhances legal professionals' efficiency with AI-powered insights, including inconsistency detection, intelligent search, and summaries to help secure better case outcomes.

JP Son has served as Verbit’s Chief Legal Officer since December 2021, with responsibility for the company’s global legal affairs, including in the areas of regulatory compliance, privacy, intellectual property, commercial, M&A, governance and employment. Previously, Son was Vice President, Legal at Vonage Holdings Corp. (VG), where he was responsible for global regulatory, privacy and intellectual property matters. He also served as lead counsel for Vonage’s API Platform group. Prior to Vonage, Son was in private practice at a global law firm based in New York. Son received his undergraduate degree in computer science from Cornell University and his J.D. from Columbia Law School.

Verbit is a verbal intelligence platform leveraged by 3,000+ businesses and institutions. Our suite of voice AI solutions are used to capture everyday exchanges, better understand the information shared and apply these insights in daily work. Verbit was founded in 2017 in Tel Aviv on the insight that attorneys were spending too much time and money on inaccurate transcripts. The team then uncovered how many more industries could benefit from access to accurate transcripts. By combining automatic speech recognition technology (ASR) with the expert human transcribers, Verbit has transformed a $30B transcription industry. The company has grown into one of the world’s largest transcription and closed captioning providers with offices in the US, Canada, UK, and Israel.