Spoiler Alert: Forever (Ever) on Netflix

Major spoilers ahead!!!! Demi and director Thembi Banks, who shot two episodes of “Forever”, discuss the pros/cons of Mom-ing like Dawn, operating a marriage in partnership versus submission, the misogyny in the Keisha critiques, cringey teenage sex scenes, non-demure Black women (and girls), why Black people absolutely need to always be in charge of Black stories, responding “ok” when you want to send a paragraph… and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices