In this episode of Therapy Time with Jonathan and Wendy, hosts Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent dive into the growing measles outbreak in the U.S. and how it exposes the deadly consequences of RFK Jr.'s anti-vaccine agenda. With 259 cases in Texas alone, including 34 hospitalizations and two deaths, the hosts discuss how this outbreak was entirely preventable—yet fueled by years of misinformation from figures like RFK Jr. and his allies.

Dr. Howard reflects on an invitation he received to speak with a filmmaker producing a documentary on the Great Barrington Declaration, questioning whether it will present the truth or further rewrite pandemic history. Meanwhile, Wendy highlights RFK Jr.’s bizarre response to the measles crisis—suggesting vitamin A, cod liver oil, and steroidsover vaccines.

The discussion expands to doctors and public figures who once defended RFK Jr., including Vinay Prasad, Jay Bhattacharya, and Marty Makary, all of whom promoted his nomination as a supposed reformer of public health. Now, with RFK Jr. dismantling vaccine initiatives, canceling flu shot studies, and pushing for a new "study" on vaccines and autism, Jonathan and Wendy ask: Where are the apologies?

Other key topics include:

• Jay Bhattacharya’s refusal to acknowledge that vaccines don’t cause autism during Senate questioning

• The Democrats’ failure to challenge Bhattacharya and Makary on their COVID-era misinformation

• The ongoing attack on vaccine safety monitoring systems and the potential removal of mRNA vaccines

• The absurdity of calls for a "randomized controlled trial" of childhood vaccine schedules

As the anti-vaccine movement gains more power, Jonathan and Wendy underscore a terrifying reality: We are watching public health be systematically dismantled—and children are paying the price.

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