Has YouTube won the podcasting game? It sure seems like it.

A recent study by Coleman Insights and Amplifi Media shares the perception of what the public thinks a podcast is, where they are discovering new shows, and some surprising information about Spotify's place in the video podcast landscape.

BONUS:

Steve shares "The Cost and ROI of YouTube videos" at the end. He gives real data behind a successful YouTube video that made $59,000 in ad revenue, and ideas for how you can speak to your potential client who wants to use YouTube to be successful.

• "What is a podcast" seems to be settled by consumers
• Video isn't just a Gen-Z thing
• YouTube still has room to grow
• Podcast listening hits the road
• Spotify is still an audio-first platform
• Social media takes the lead
• YouTube Premium adds complexity to monetiztion

• Full report video replay: State of Video Podcasting replay
• Article: Why The Rise Of Video Podcasting Is Not Killing Audio
• Pod Predictor: https://colemaninsights.com/podcasting/pod-predictor
• Article by Sounds Profitable: The Impact Spotify’s Video Has on Publishers
• Emma Sweet replay: YouTube's Algorythm

Jay joined Coleman Insights in 2017 after more than two decades of experience in the radio industry as a program director and on-air talent at stations covering a wide variety of formats in the United States.

He has launched multiple successful brands, coached some of entertainment’s brightest talents, and authored a memoir of life in radio. Today, Jay leads podcast research initiatives at Coleman, developing custom solutions for clients to grow strong brands and develop great content by deeply understanding the perceptions and desires of their target audiences.

Jay also co-authored “The New Rules Of Podcasting On YouTube,” a landmark 2023 study focused exclusively on video podcasting, and now "The State of Video Podcasting 2025” - as conducted by Coleman Insights and Amplifi Media

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Do you know how crucial YouTube thumbnails are to the success of a video? Andrew Armstrong reveals strategies to craft video thumbnails that grab attention and make people click Play!

Discover how the first impression provided by thumbnails can make or break your client's video's success, functioning as a gateway to garner viewers’ interest. Andrew shares how to leverage YouTube's built-in A/B testing tool to identify the most effective designs that keep audiences engaged.

The conversation also touches on how YouTube’s algorithm emphasizes search results based on watch time and audience behavior, shifting the focus from views to meaningful engagement.

• The fundamental role of thumbnails in stopping viewers’ scroll and encouraging video clicks
• How A/B testing tools on YouTube can optimize a video’s performance through effective thumbnail design
• The importance of analyzing watch time and audience behavior to refine thumbnail strategies for increased engagement

(00:00) "YouTube Thumbnails: What you need to know"

(03:18) Algorithm Reflects Audience Behavior

(07:28) Optimal Logo Placement Strategy

(10:07) Video Strategy: Success Elements

(14:14) Thumbnail Testing Strategy

(19:11) Assessing YouTube Channel Legitimacy

(22:57) Maximizing YouTube's Evergreen Potential

Andrew is a content creator, consultant, and storyteller passionate about helping individuals and businesses craft social media and digital content strategies.

He leverages his many years as a full-time YouTuber, and as an industry Social Media Strategist, to help content creators and companies better understand the platforms they work on, the best practices that lead to success, and the behaviors of their audiences.

His wife best describes him as "dangerously competent." For consultations, reach out to dawnforgedmedia@gmail.com

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Apple recently changed the way they display artwork in their Podcasts app.

This is important to note because there can be some negative consequences if you're not following a consistent process or even unaware, as Steve was, about adding artwork to each upload to your clients' media host.

Mathew Passy shares the benefits of having good Show artwork (for the entire podcast), and if there is any value in having Episodic artwork (for each episode).

Key Takeaways:

• The Benefits of a good thumbnail
• Using the headshots in Show artwork
• What NOT to include in Show artwork
• Are there benefits for using EPISODE artwork?
• Getting into Apple's Featured section
• How Apple displays Episode artwork (or not)
• Uploaded Episode artwork doesn't change if rebranding a show
• What about artwork for other reasons (chapters/sponsors)
• Changing Show artwork periodically to highlight events, themes, etc.

BTW: We will also be releasing an episode soon about VIDEO thumbnails. Be sure you subscribe to our newsletter so you don't miss that one: https://www.PodcastEditorAcademy.com/newsletter

The #1 reason RSS feeds stop updating is because the SHOW artwork is too large. When you take on a new editing client, be sure the specs of their SHOW artwork meets the same requirements posed by Apple:

https://podcasters.apple.com/support/896-artwork-requirements#shows

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About Mathew Passy:

Mathew has 15+ years of podcasting experience, starting with his first show at a NJ radio station. He spent 8 years as a podcast producer for The Wall Street Journal Radio Network and later founded ThePodcastConsultant.com, a successful podcast production and consulting agency, which he sold after 8 years.

Currently, Mathew runs Custom Podcast Solutions, focusing on comprehensive podcast support.

He also hosts Podcasting Tech and serves as a LibsynPro Customer Care Specialist at Libsyn.

Find him, and the cool NFT/beacons at https://conntap.com

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