Impact-driven leaders will always feel tension between managing the businesses they have and building the businesses they want. But the phase you’re in now doesn’t have to last forever. In this episode, Alex talks with Ben Loy about the four stages of business ownership: founder, operator, CEO, and owner. He breaks down some of the common characteristics and pitfalls of each stage and explains how you can keep yourself from becoming the bottleneck to the business’ growth.

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• When a leader stops growing, the business stops growing.
• There will always be tension between managing the business you have and building the business you want.
• 1. The Founder Stage: You’re the primary source of sales and/or service
• What keeps people stuck in the founder stage?
• 2. The Operator Stage: You’re the point person for everyone else in the business
• What does it mean to operationalize your business?
• Focus on building leaders who can move the business forward
• 3. The CEO Stage: You’re no longer taking or needing credit for every piece of the business’ success
• What areas should CEOs focus on?
• 4. The Owner Stage: Your business operates largely independent of your time investment

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Chris Fisher’s whole life changed when he decided to become a Navy SEAL. And even though he didn’t finish BUD/S training, Chris applied the dedication and perseverance he learned to pursuing a new life as a professional, world-record breaking mountain athlete. In this episode, Chris talks with Alex about his incredible life story, including the Navy SEAL training experience, his approach to his athletic projects, and much more. He also explains why a capacity for suffering has served him well, discusses the source of his motivation, and shares encouragement for listeners who feel stuck in their current circumstances.

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Episode Recap:

• Can you tell us about your life before deciding to become a Navy SEAL?
• How did life change when you decided you wanted to go after this goal?
• What was the training process like?
• What allowed you to find a new path after the Navy?
• What would you say to someone who feels stuck in their circumstances?
• Can you tell us about some of your athletic achievements?
• What can people gain from pushing themselves to the threshold of possibility?
• How do you evaluate risk when pursuing such challenging feats?
• How do you hold onto other priorities while still focusing on your goals?
• What gives you the ability to suffer, and why is that beneficial?
• What keeps you excited to get up and pursue your goals each day?
• What practical advice can you give to someone who’s in a rut?

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When you’re a visionary leader, your greatest strengths can also become a roadblock to sustainable growth. In this episode, Alex talks with Ben Loy about five important warnings for visionary leaders to keep in mind. He also shares practical tips for wearing multiple hats, pursuing excellence, giving effective feedback, and much more. You won’t want to miss this one!

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• What’s something that people misunderstand about visionary leaders?
• 1. The skills it takes to start well are not the skills you’ll need to scale well.
• How do you know when to wear which hat?
• 2. Be aware that you have a propensity to overvalue people with your temperament.
• How can leaders find people that align with and complement them?
• 3. Predictable excellence costs more time, energy, and money than most are willing to pay.
• What are some areas where leaders tend to shortcut or put a lid on excellence?
• What if you don’t have the margins to pursue excellence?
• 4. You’re always at risk of being a weed whacker or a helium-filled balloon.
• How can visionary leaders think about giving effective feedback?
• 5. If your vision for your business is grander than your vision for your life, your vision will become your life.
• Worry less about making mistakes and more about learning from them so you don’t repeat them.

If you’re ready to move beyond just gathering information and start executing on what truly matters, Path for Growth’s 1-on-1 coaching can help. Apply now at pathforgrowth.com/coaching.

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