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In this episode of the Movement Series, the hosts delve into Chapter 3, 'Starting to Take Jesus at His Word,' exploring the cultural biases that hinder the church's mission. They discuss the distinction between the church's function and form, emphasizing the need for a minimalist approach to church leadership and structure. The conversation highlights the financial unsustainability of traditional church models and calls for a significant shift in thinking to foster genuine disciple-making movements.

• This chapter promises to really push us.
• Our common approach might be prioritizing the structure.
• The church is a movement of people, not an organization.
• A church is defined simply as a group of people.
• Jesus intended a different kind of leadership.
• Clergyfication creates a divide.
• It's easier to give birth than perform resurrection.
• The system is financially broken.
• A major shift in thinking is needed.
• What would it take to truly see a movement?

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In this conversation, the hosts delve into Chapter 2 of Roy Moran's book, 'Spent Matches,' focusing on the Great Commission and its implications for modern discipleship. They explore the idea that the command to 'make disciples' is not just for a select few but for all believers, emphasizing the importance of living out one's faith in everyday life. The discussion highlights the need for a shift from traditional methods of evangelism to a more organic, relational approach to discipleship, where teaching obedience and public identification through baptism play crucial roles. The hosts also challenge the reliance on church structures and titles, advocating for a model where every believer is empowered to participate in the mission of making disciples.

Takeaways

• The Great Commission is for all believers, not just leaders.
• Mission is embedded in everyday life, not a separate activity.
• Baptism serves as public identification with Jesus.
• Teaching obedience is essential for true discipleship.
• Replication of discipleship is key to growth.
• Success in ministry should be measured by multiplication, not addition.
• Dependency should be on God's power, not human leaders.
• Jesus commissioned imperfect people to fulfill His mission.
• Discipleship involves making learners who can teach others.
• Simplifying the process can lead to a more effective movement.

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The conversation dives into the first chapter of 'Spent Matches', exploring the effectiveness of current church strategies in light of global trends. It confronts the brutal facts about church growth, challenges traditional assumptions about evangelism and discipleship, and emphasizes the need for a paradigm shift in leadership and ministry practices.

Takeaways

• The church is becoming less effective despite growth.
• The Stockdale Paradox highlights the need to confront reality.
• Only 19 million converts a year globally is concerning.
• The financial sustainability of current methods is questionable.
• US evangelicalism is experiencing declines in key metrics.
• The focus should shift from form to function in ministry.
• Discipleship should emphasize obedience over knowledge.
• Leadership roles need to evolve into learning designers.
• The church should be seen as a community, not a building.
• Radical change often starts at the fringes, not the top.

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Pyry and Ani Winter are Finns serving in Turku, on Finland’s west coast. Recognizing future generations may not find God in the established church, they are focusing on disciple-making movements. These are intended to inspire believers to share Jesus within their social spheres and consistently live the Kingdom ethic.

God has given Pyry and Ani a deep love for people, and crystalised their vision for making disciples who make disciples throughout Finland and to the whole of Europe. This led to the establishment of a robust Finnish disciple making network, including active teams in seven cities across the country. Everyday Finns are being trained to make disciples within their relational networks. The Winters provide coaching and training to leaders in Austria, Portugal, and Slovenia. God regularly provides new opportunities for further expansion of the ministry vision.

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Another session with Harry Brown and the senior church leaders going through the DMM Playbook experience.

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Tom Marshall, a business guy, who has been in the disciple making world for 20 plus years share his simply strategy that he learned from the Gospels.

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Mark Fields, long time Vineyard leader shares how he came to understand movements and the connection they have ot the local church.

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Harry has been in the middle of New Generation's movement activity for 27 years. He is President of New Generations.

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