Minnesota Attorney Shelley Torvinen finally found us in the big city (Chicago) after a long drive to our virtual studio*. With a promise of hot chocolate and plenty of encouragement, we coaxed her from her car, walked her through our weed-strewn parking lot, and down the stairs past a creaky iron door, to a rusty office chair. We cleared away a pile of spiders and dust, gave her a seat at the table with us, and then applied our usual psychological pressure.

In this Episode 44, recorded on March 12, 2025 by the light of a Coleman gas lantern and between bites of Norwegian lutefisk (in honor of our Minnesota guest,) Shelley did not wilt under our interrogation. It's clear that Shelley, despite laboring in the trenches for over 30 years, has not lost her enthusiasm and compassion for the practice of family law. We spent an hour jabbering about situations, stories, hints and creative ideas -- and family law and procedures in three states (Illinois, Minnesota and Wisconsin.)

Hopefully, our non-lawyer listeners will find our wide-ranging discussion to be useful and helpful!

Attorney Shelley Torvinen practices in Northern Minnesota and Wisconsin, handling family-law cases in courtrooms and courthouses big and small, far and wide. To schedule a consultation, and maybe be treated to hot chocolate and lutefisk, visit her website at www.wiscotalm.com or call her at (218) 625-2239.

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About the hosts of 'Dynamite Divorce and Other Matters," a project spanning over four years:

Chicago Lawyers Marjie Nielsen, Barry C. Boykin and Kevin R. Johnson have more than 70 combined years of experience in Custody, Divorce and other Family Law matters. They know first-hand the court battles, stress and struggles that people endure as disputes are resolved in the family-court system. They don't always agree

They work tirelessly to bring hope and clarity to a troubled world, where lawyers, judges and other professionals see the best and worst of human behavior on public display.

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CARPLS - legal resources www.carpls.org

Illinois Legal Aid Online www.illinoislegalaid.org

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Who we are:

Attorney Marjie Nielsen - https://nextsteplegalservices.com/about-us
Attorney Barry C. Boykin - www.gclclaw.org/barry-c-boykin
Attorney Kevin R. Johnson - www.divorce.nu call his cell # 312-493-4241

* (we actually record our episodes remotely using Zoom.)
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