Labor MP Linda Burney is a fascinating blend of realist and optimist.

She’s pragmatic but she dares to dream of a kinder, fairer Australia.

In this episode, Leila McKinnon speaks to the Shadow Minister about her past and her dreams for the future – for herself, and for the nation.

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2. Guest: Linda Burney, Shadow Minister for Families and Social Services and for Preventing Family Violence

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We are thrilled to bring you a very special episode with our boss lady in chief, Helen McCabe.

Helen speaks with Leila about being an "extreme introvert" in the public eye, how getting sacked in her twenties put her on a path to success, what's changed for women and what remains the same.

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“You're either a Paralympian doing incredible things, or a really sad and depressed person who is burdened by a miserable life with disabilities.”

Lisa Cox is an award-winning writer, presenter and consultant. She’s also spent nearly two decades advocating for better and fairer representation of people with a disability in media and pop culture.

In this week’s episode of Drive, she and Leila McKinnon talk about using spending power to create change, gratitude, and reshaping cultural norms.

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