Rejection. It’s what’s for dinner. And breakfast. And sometimes, if you’re lucky, brunch. In this episode, Ryan, Misty, Kyle, and Pete dive headfirst into the creative gauntlet of being told, in increasingly poetic ways, that their babies are ugly. Kyle kicks things off with a rejection letter so well-crafted it deserves its own rejection from the Pushcart Prize. Misty breaks down the unglamorous labor of being a gatekeeper at Lionsgate, Ryan shares a deeply relatable five-minute sadness rule, and Pete reveals he processes pain through footwear and paper products. As one does.

From there, we launch into the writer’s block TED Talk no one asked for but everyone needs. Ryan makes a compelling case that writer’s block isn’t a real thing—it’s just fear in a trench coat—and the gang explores the odd rituals, inner critics, and coffee shop migrations that accompany the daily quest to get words on a page. There’s talk of NaNoWriMo (RIP), vomit drafts, and why sometimes you just need to write the worst possible version so Future You can come in with a cape and fix it.

Then, like any respectable artistic salon, the episode devolves gloriously into chaotic Mad Libs. First, Misty guides the group through a make-your-own creative process confession. Then Pete unleashes a faux-pretentious artist statement so disturbingly accurate it may have been plagiarized from a Brooklyn gallery wall. It includes polyester, Marco Polo, Aunt Pat’s canning club, and the philosophical meaning of “baby squirrel and rollerblades.”

Plus, you’ll hear two new “Sponsors”—one from the return of The Other Orange and another featuring Gandalf’s Discount Used Automobiles, because of course. If you leave this episode feeling totally normal, congratulations: you’re doing it wrong.

• (00:00) - Welcome to Craft and Chaos
• (02:20) - The Sweet Sound of Rejection
• (20:52) - "Sponsor:" The Other Orange
• (22:41) - My Wily Breadbasket
• (28:28) - Writer's Block
• (45:41) - "Sponsor:" Gandalf's Fine Somewhat Used Discount Vehicles
• (48:30) - ANOTHER Mad Lib

In this episode of Craft and Chaos, the team barrels past the sophomore slump and directly into a full-on identity crisis, complete with pseudonyms, fake sponsors, and a trivia contest where the prize is fractional horse ownership. Kyle Olson hosts Misty Stinnett, Ryan Dalton, and Pete Wright in a wildly meandering conversation about creative resilience, the dangers of scorpions, and why “bookmark” might be the most emotionally accurate verb of 2025. They debate the ethics of banana bread espionage, perform a cold read of a sewage-plant noir mystery written under the influence of neurotoxins, and invent a sponsor who promises not just goods and services, but also existential dread. Somewhere in there, Misty becomes a certified coach, Pete learns about Jeff Bridges’ jazz career, and Ryan achieves his dream of invoking TV’s Patrick Duffy for absolutely no reason at all.

It’s absurd. It’s sincere. It’s exactly what happens when creative people try to talk about their work and end up inventing a shadow organization called The Other Orange. Pancakes are eternal. Footnotes are emotional. And yes, creative survival is still possible—even if your leg is on fire.

Subscribe wherever chaos is allowed. Support the show at https://trustory.fm/join, and we’ll send you the rest of the horse.*

*We will not.

• (00:00) - Welcome to Craft and Chaos
• (00:54) - Introductions... again.
• (05:07) - New Rules: Footnotes and Bookmarks
• (10:52) - SPONSOR: Pancakes
• (13:27) - Misty's Trivia Corner
• (23:24) - *Footnote: What can we learn about TV's Patrick Duffy?
• (26:50) - Storytime with Kyle

Welcome to Craft and Chaos, the podcast that dares to ask: what if a bunch of creative overachievers decided to work through their deep-seated psychological baggage… into a microphone? In this first episode, Misty, Kyle, Pete, and Ryan gather around the digital campfire and do the unthinkable—start something new, on purpose. What follows is a freewheeling, earnest, and often hilarious journey into imposter syndrome, perfectionism, and the strangely comforting fact that Julia Child didn’t publish her first cookbook until she was 49. You know. For the rest of us.

Pete confesses his creative process is fueled by dread and French teachers long dead. Kyle relives his artistic awakening via a Shakespearean pep talk from Lawrence Fishburne. Ryan, the most emotionally stable of the bunch (suspicious), calmly denies imposter syndrome exists while quietly dominating the author game under two names. And Misty—a princess by day, TV writer by night—drops the mic on late bloomers, Cinderella in a parking garage, and what it means to create when there’s no safety net, just drive, deadlines, and cheap wigs.

Along the way, you’ll hear ads from mysterious sponsors (we think?), deeply human moments wrapped in neurotic punchlines, and a shared promise: this show might not make us rich, but it will be real. And occasionally, it’ll be about ducks à l’orange.

So pull up a chair, bring your weirdest ideas, and enjoy the slightly lumpy, gloriously flavorful start to a podcast that honors the chaos of creation—and the creators still figuring it out in public.

• (00:00) - Welcome to Craft and Chaos
• (00:54) - Kyle Olson is Dramatic
• (01:20) - Ryan Dalton is Acclaimed
• (02:07) - Misty Stinnet Produces
• (03:04) - Pete Write has Podcast and Book
• (05:44) - "Sponsor" The Other Orange
• (07:23) - Pete's Thing: The Aire of the Imposter
• (29:38) - Late Bloomers!
• (36:32) - Buy "This Last Adventure" by Ryan Dalton
• (38:07) - Perfectionism
• (01:00:25) - The Visit
• (01:03:06) - Reach Out! https://CraftAndChaos.fun