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Welcome to ChatEDU: AI in Education, your go-to podcast for insightful discussions on the intersection of AI and education! Hosted by Matt Mervis, Director of Skills21 and AI Strategy at EdAdvance, and Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Director of Research & Innovation, this podcast explores the dynamic landscape of education technology.Matt Mervis and Dr. Elizabeth Radday
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  • Academic Earthquake: When AI Passes Peer Review | Ep. 62
    Jun 13 2025

    In this episode of ChatEDU (Academic Earthquake: When AI Passes Peer Review), Matt and Liz open with a hilarious AI challenge: generate each other’s perfect romantic partner. The results are surprisingly poetic and strangely consistent, but the fun quickly turns to focus. They dive into three big stories shaping the future of work, education, and research. From job evolution to classroom AI to a paper written entirely by an agent, this episode tackles the jagged edge of AI's impact. A bright byte on flood prediction closes things out with real-world urgency.


    Story 1: PwC on AI Jobs and the 66 Percent ShiftA new report from PwC analyzes one billion job ads and finds that AI is not wiping out jobs but rapidly transforming them. Roles in AI-exposed fields are evolving 66 percent faster and offering rising wage premiums. Matt and Liz talk about what this means for workforce development, education programs, and why being AI fluent is a serious advantage.


    Story 2: Google Tools for Teachers and StudentsNotebookLM adds podcast overviews, link sharing, and new structured outputs. Deep Research can now generate full webpages, quizzes, and infographics. Google’s AI Studio introduces speech generation tools and visual inputs. Liz explains how teachers are already applying these updates to boost student learning and access. Matt imagines homework powered by narrated study guides.


    Story 3: Peer Review Gets an AI EarthquakeAn AI system named Zochi just had a solo-authored paper accepted into ACL 2025. No humans wrote it or guided the process. It outscored most human submissions and passed multiple rounds of peer review. Matt and Liz break down how this happened and why it matters. They also highlight the irony of students being forced to prove they did not use AI while AI itself is publishing research.


    Bright Byte: AI Predicts Floods and Saves LivesGoogle’s Flood Hub is now providing 7-day flood warnings to 460 million people across 80 countries. Using satellite imagery and river-level modeling, it delivers free, daily updates in regions where early warnings can save lives.



    AnnouncementsThe Summer Micro-Credential is open now skills21.org/ai/micro



    Links and References


    PwC AI Jobs-

    Barometerhttps://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/artificial-intelligence/job-barometer/2025/report.pdf?utm_source=www.theneurondaily.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=ai-skills-56-pay-bump


    NotebookLM-

    https://notebooklm.google/


    Flood Hub-

    https://sites.research.google/gr/floodforecasting/


    Zochi’s Peer-Reviewed Paper-

    https://www.intology.ai/blog/zochi-acl


    Voiceitt: Speech Recognition for Non-Standard Speech

    https://www.voiceitt.com



    SponsorThis episode is supported by the National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing www.nextgenmfg.org

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  • Nice Try, Tech Bro: Schools Aren’t Daycare and AI Isn’t in Charge | Ep. 61
    Jun 6 2025

    In this episode of ChatEDU (Nice Try, Tech Bro: Schools Aren’t Daycare and AI Isn’t in Charge), Matt and Liz dive into three stories shaping the future of learning and tech. They start with a prank, then cover an Axios AI survey, Google’s new Beam tech, and a hot debate over whether Duolingo’s CEO dissed teachers. It’s a fast ride across the AI-in-education frontier, ending with a bright byte that’s both mathematically sharp and eco-smart. Plus, a welcome to sponsor zSpace.



    Story 1: Axios Survey and the New AI Literacy Framework


    A new Axios Harris Poll shows 77% of Americans want AI development to slow down, even if it means delays. Matt and Liz contrast this with AI pushes by the UAE, Duke, and Miami-Dade. They explore a new AI literacy framework from TeachAI, Code.org, and the OECD, with four domains: engaging with AI, creating with it, managing AI actions, and designing solutions. It’s not just tech, it’s about shaping thoughtful, ethical, human-centered learners.



    Story 2: Google Beam and the Shape of Remote Learning to Come


    Google Beam, evolving from Project Starline, enables 3D, lifelike communication, no headset needed. It restores eye contact, conveys subtle cues, and offers real-time translation with tone and expression. Matt and Liz consider how Beam could reshape connection, collaboration, and presence in schools.



    Beneath the Surface: Duolingo and the Limits of AI-First Thinking


    Duolingo CEO Luis von Ahn recently claimed schools will mainly serve as daycare while AI handles learning. Matt and Liz respond with a clear “no thanks.” They discuss Duolingo’s contractor layoffs and a user who ended a 1,435-day streak in protest. Replacing teachers with AI, they argue, isn’t just flawed, it’s harmful. Drawing on examples from Cal Poly DXHub and rural innovators in Odisha, they show AI should empower. not replace, learners. The future is human-guided, AI-enhanced, and fueled by creativity.



    Bright Byte: Alpha Evolve and the Math That Changes Everything


    This week’s Bright Byte features Alpha Evolve, DeepMind’s latest leap. It combines Gemini language models with evolutionary algorithms to write code and solve problems. It reclaimed stranded compute power, cut AI training time, and broke a 56-year-old matrix multiplication record. Matt and Liz explain why it matters and how it could offset AI’s environmental toll with real-world efficiency.



    Referenced Articles and Resources


    Axios AI Survey (77 Percent Want to Slow Down)

    https://www.axios.com/2025/05/27/ai-harris-100-poll-move-slow?utm_term=emshare


    OECD + TeachAI + Code.org Framework

    https://www.teachai.org/ailiteracy


    Google Beam Announcement

    https://blog.google/technology/research/project-starline-google-beam-update/


    NDTV: Duolingo CEO on the Future of School

    https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/will-schools-exist-in-ai-future-duolingo-ceo-makes-prediction-8446047


    Cal Poly DXHub and Snopes Partnership

    https://www.ksby.com/san-luis-obispo/cal-poly-students-using-ai-as-solutions-to-real-world-problems


    Odisha Students at Global Summit

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhubaneswar/odisha-rural-students-to-showcase-innovative-ideas-at-global-summit-in-usa/articleshow/121274943.cms#:~:text=Odisha%20rural%20students%20to%20showcase%20innovative%20ideas%20at%20global%20summit%20in%20USA,-Hemanta%20Pradhan%20%2F%20May&text=Bhubaneswar%3A%20Eight%20rural%20high%20school,at%20Texas%20State%20University%2C%20USA.


    DeepMind Alpha Evolve

    https://venturebeat.com/ai/meet-alphaevolve-the-google-ai-that-writes-its-own-code-and-just-saved-millions-in-computing-costs/



    Announcements & Sponsor


    Summer Micro-Credential Cohort is Open

    Learn more and register at: skills21.org/ai/micro


    This episode is sponsored by the National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing, supporting AI-powered innovation and workforce readiness.

    https://www.nextgenmfg.org/


    Also supported in part by zSpace, makers of immersive 3D education tools that don’t require headsets.

    info.zspace.com/chatedu

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  • What are we protecting? AI, learning, and the myth of the good old days | Ep. 60
    May 30 2025

    In this episode of ChatEDU (What are we protecting? AI, learning, and the myth of the good old days), Matt and Jonathan return to the ChatEDU studio while Liz globe-trots her way to ASCD authorship, to tackle two big stories shaping the AI-in-education conversation. First, they dive into NASA’s spring guidance warning that generative AI is too unreliable for mission-critical applications, and unpack what that means for education, ethics, and expectations. Then, they go beneath the surface with a new article from Jonathan Costa exploring G.K. Chesterton’s “fence” and what it reveals about our assumptions around reading, writing, and what students really need to know. From dog impressions to deep epistemology, this episode covers serious ground.



    Story 1: NASA’s Take on Generative AI

    In a springtime memo to chief information officers, NASA came out strong: generative AI is not to be used for critical research or safety work. Why? Hallucinations, poor data quality, and instruction ignoring are still too common. Matt and Jonathan explore the implications of this position and why context matters; what’s a dealbreaker in rocket science might be a minor annoyance in dinner recipes. They also do a dramatic reading of a fictional “AI performance review” pulled from a CIO.com op-ed to highlight how strange our current AI tolerance levels really are.



    Beneath the Surface: Chesterton’s Fence and the Myth of the Good Old Days

    Jonathan shares his new piece on Chesterton’s Fence, a metaphor for not tearing down long-standing traditions unless you understand why they exist. He and Matt explore how this metaphor applies to the future of literacy, learning, and school design in an AI-powered world. Does reading still matter if you can generate a podcast from any text? Is decoding the same as thinking? They examine writing, world languages, engineering fluency, and post-literate futures, while offering practical insights for superintendents navigating change. It’s a smart, provocative conversation about learning in the age of acceleration.



    Bright Byte: Stanford’s BRP Discovery

    This week’s Bright Byte spotlights a health tech breakthrough from Stanford Medicine. Using a peptide-predicting AI model, researchers identified BRP, a naturally occurring amino acid that reduces appetite and body weight in animal studies with fewer side effects than Ozempic. The model analyzed 20,000 protein-coding genes to find active peptides, a task too complex for traditional lab methods. It’s another example of how AI can support high-impact research and deliver real-world benefits in health and medicine.



    Announcements

    Summer Micro-Credential Cohort is Open

    Learn more and register at: skills21.org/ai/micro



    Referenced Articles and Resources


    Wendy Costa's awesome photography websitehttps://www.alternaterealityphotos.com/

    NASA’s Generative AI Caution

    https://www.computerworld.com/article/3951046/nasa-finds-generative-ai-cant-be-trusted.html#:~:text=The%20NASA%20report%20found%20that,systems%20that%20create%20unacceptable%20risk.


    Stanford’s AI Discovery of BRP

    https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2025/03/ozempic-rival.html#:~:text=Naturally%20occurring%20molecule%20rivals%20Ozempic%20in%20weight%20loss%2C%20sidesteps%20side%20effects&text=The%2012%2Damino%2Dacid%20BRP,causing%20nausea%20or%20food%20aversion.



    Sponsor


    This episode is sponsored by the National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing, supporting AI-powered innovation and workforce readiness.

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I am a teacher educator. While this podcast targets the K-12 environment, everything we do in teacher preparation is based on what happens in a K-12 setting. The structure, tone, pacing, and information in this podcast is very helpful in getting me up to speed on what I need to know about the use of AI in K-12 so that I can model experiences and assignments for my students. In fact, because this podcast is so helpful I am going to assign my students to listen to a range of episodes. Thanks to the team on their great work. Well done!

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