#10: In Conversation with Nabil El-Ghoroury, PhD, CAE, about Stress, Burnout and Other Mental Health Issues

Nabil El-Ghoroury, PhD, CAE, is a psychologist and principal at Executive Therapy & Consulting. He has 13 years experience as a nonprofit executive, including four years as CEO of a $6 million association. Nabil is a licensed psychologist who can see patients in over 30 states via telehealth and is available for individual counseling.

As a global speaker, Nabil speaks to businesses and associations on mental health topics such as stress and wellness, burnout, impostor experience, and creating a culture of employee well-being.

In this episode, we talk about: 

• How the pandemic lockdown led to social isolation and an increase in loneliness.
• How remote and hybrid work is affecting association staff — and why choice is so important for employees. 
• Managers are not trained in how to supervise remote workers. 
• Telling the difference between stress and burnout. 
• Telling the difference between stress and burnout versus more serious anxiety and/or depression. 
• Associations that provide mental health resources and benefits improve employee recruitment and retention. 
• It’s not just from the COVID-19 pandemic — there’s an intersectionality of mental health issues in the U.S. related to social justice issues, microaggressions, the political climate and more.
• The importance of finding ways for social connection, for both extroverts and introverts. 
• The importance of supervisors scheduling regular meetings with their staff and teams — and learning how to be better listeners. 
• How to incorporate mindfulness, deep breathing, and laughter into your daily lives to help combat stress. 

Resources:

• Nabil’s website: https://executivetherapy.solutions
• Email Nabil at [e-mail]
• Nabil on Twitter
• Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy released a Surgeon General Advisory in May 2023 on the public health crisis of loneliness, isolation, and lack of connection.

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