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Science and Religion in the Fullness of Life
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Since the Renaissance, people have been plagued by the tense battle between science and religion. Revered evolutionist Stephen Jay Gould suggests, instead of choosing between the two, why not opt for a golden mean that accords dignity and distinction to each realm? With intelligence and clarity, Gould renders the complex simple and sheds new light on this dilemma, mending the seeming split between the two "Rocks of Ages." In this dazzling gem of contemporary cultural philosophy, Gould posits that science defines the natural world, while religion defines our moral world, and they both can coexist peacefully in respectful noninterference.
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Already a classic, this landmark study of early Western thought now appears in a new edition with expanded coverage of the Middle Ages. Author Anthony Gottlieb looks afresh at the writings of the great thinkers, questions much of conventional wisdom, and explains his findings with unbridled brilliance and clarity. From the pre-Socratic philosophers through the celebrated days of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, up to Renaissance visionaries like Erasmus and Bacon, philosophy emerges here as a phenomenon unconfined by any one discipline.
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Bias spoils the work.
- De MC en 08-21-20
De: Anthony Gottlieb
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How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization
- De: Thomas E. Woods Jr.
- Narrado por: Barrett Whitener
- Duración: 7 h
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Western civilization has given us modern science, the wealth of free-market economics, the security of law, a sense of human rights and freedom, charity as a virtue, splendid art and music, philosophy grounded in reason, and innumerable other gifts we take for granted.
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Fascinating and informative
- De Michael Kellogg en 09-29-05
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The Case for God
- De: Karen Armstrong
- Narrado por: Karen Armstrong
- Duración: 16 h y 45 m
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Moving from the Paleolithic age to the present, Karen Armstrong details the great lengths to which humankind has gone in order to experience a sacred reality that it called by many names, such as God, Brahman, Nirvana, Allah, or Dao. Focusing especially on Christianity but including Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Chinese spiritualities, Armstrong examines the diminished impulse toward religion in our own time, when a significant number of people either want nothing to do with God or question the efficacy of faith. Why has God become unbelievable?
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Great recasting of how God should be interpreted
- De John Doyle en 02-18-11
De: Karen Armstrong
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Between Past and Future
- Eight Exercises in Political Thought
- De: Hannah Arendt
- Narrado por: Bernadette Dunne
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Hannah Arendt's insightful observations of the modern world, based on a profound knowledge of the past, constitute an impassioned contribution to political philosophy. In Between Past and Future, Arendt describes the perplexing crises modern society faces as a result of the loss of meaning of the traditional key words of politics: justice, reason, responsibility, virtue, and glory. Through a series of eight exercises, she shows how we can redistill the vital essence of these concepts and use them to regain a frame of reference for the future.
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Just stunning
- De Peter Stephens en 02-26-18
De: Hannah Arendt
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Seven Types of Atheism
- De: John Gray
- Narrado por: James Langton
- Duración: 6 h y 43 m
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For a generation now, public debate has been corroded by a shrill, narrow derision of religion in the name of an often vaguely understood “science.” John Gray’s stimulating and enjoyable new book, Seven Types of Atheism, describes the complex, dynamic world of older atheisms, a tradition that is, he writes, in many ways intertwined with and as rich as religion itself.
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Knowing Christ Today
- Why We Can Trust Spiritual Knowledge
- De: Dallas Willard
- Narrado por: David Cochran Heath
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At a time when popular atheism books are talking about the irrationality of believing in God, Willard makes a rigorous intellectual case for why it makes sense to believe in God and in Jesus, the Son.
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Logical to a fault
- De cynthia en 05-13-10
De: Dallas Willard
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The Enlightenment
- And Why It Still Matters
- De: Anthony Pagden
- Narrado por: Robert Blumenfeld
- Duración: 16 h y 24 m
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One of our most renowned and brilliant historians takes a fresh look at the revolutionary intellectual movement that laid the foundation for the modern world. Liberty and equality. Human rights. Freedom of thought and expression. Belief in reason and progress. The value of scientific inquiry. These are just some of the ideas that were conceived and developed during the Enlightenment, and which changed forever the intellectual landscape of the Western world.
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A thorough political tract rather than history
- De Jacobus en 03-08-14
De: Anthony Pagden
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The Cave and the Light
- Plato Versus Aristotle, and the Struggle for the Soul of Western Civilization
- De: Arthur Herman
- Narrado por: Paul Hecht
- Duración: 25 h y 26 m
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The Cave and the Light reveals how two Greek philosophers became the twin fountainheads of Western culture, and how their rivalry gave Western civilization its unique dynamism down to the present.
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All of Western Philosphy Leads to Ayn Rand?!?
- De Leslie en 06-22-15
De: Arthur Herman
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Philosophy: 100 Essential Thinkers
- The Ideas That Have Shaped Our World
- De: Philip Stokes
- Narrado por: Steven Crossley
- Duración: 8 h y 12 m
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This engaging and accessible book invites the listener to explore the questions and arguments of philosophy through the work of 100 of the greatest thinkers within the Western intellectual tradition - covering philosophical, scientific, political, and religious thought over a period of 2500 years.
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Unpretentious, honest, with a big picture
- De Mike S. en 05-29-17
De: Philip Stokes
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Among scientists who write, no one illuminates as well as Stephen Jay Gould does the wonderful workings of the natural world. Now in a new volume of collected essays—his sixth since Ever Since Darwin—Gould speaks of the importance of unbroken connections within our own lives and to our ancestral generations. Along with way, he opens to us the mysteries of fish tails, frog calls, and other matters, and shows once and for all why we must take notice when a seemingly insignificant creature is threatened, like the land snail Partula from Moorea, whose extinction he movingly relates.
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Over a century after Darwin published the Origin of Species, Darwinian theory is in a "vibrantly healthy state," writes Stephen Jay Gould, its most engaging and illuminating exponent. Exploring the "peculiar and mysterious particulars of nature," Gould introduces the listener to some of the many and wonderful manifestations of evolutionary biology.
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What is our concept of a millennium and how has its meaning shifted? When did the new millennium begin? And why must our calendars be so complex, anyway? Best-selling author Stephen Jay Gould applies his wit and erudition to explore these questions, which cover one of today's most pressing subjects.
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- anonymous123
- 04-07-18
Weak
The weakest SJG (Creator rest his soul) I've read. I appreciated what he was trying to accomplish, but his grasp of theology was too poor to adequately make an argument. I much preferred theologist David Bentley Hart's "The Experience of God: Being, Consciousness, Bliss" (except for the bliss part, which I thought was hokum) and atheist Curtis White's "Atheist Delusions: Asking the Big Questions in a Culture of Easy Answers."
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- Charles Cumiskey
- 05-07-19
Excellent Insight
Stephen Jay Gould remains insightful now as when he published this work in 1999. He passed away in 2002 in this 60th year. We miss your true wisdom and insight!!!
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- John Mertus
- 01-15-05
Tame and bland compared to his other books
I love Gould's insights, read almost all his books and mourned his passing. This book is different, rather than letting the data and drive conclusion, Gould decided on the conclusion and presented little that opposed this.
For example, Gould is correct that Galileo's problems were more political then scientific. But he never explores the damage to popular science that the Catholic Church did by Galileo's public trial. If you inadvertently knock a flowerpot off a 22 story building and the impact destroys a pedestrian's head; there may be a legal difference if it was intentional or accidential, but to the poor walker it matters not, nor if the flower was an almost dead marigold or a prize winning orchid. Gould basically talks about how wonderfully you grew orchid and not the consequences as he expounds upon how the higher ups in the Church discuss and debate all sorts of scientific and philosophical ideas. He ignores that these discussions do not lead to any ground-breaking policies or reforms.
Still this is Gould and as always he has unique ways of looking at science and religion that exposed some of my own prejudices about science and religion.
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- Ray M
- 09-27-17
Fair attempt to reconcile religion and science
In this short book the late Stephen Jay Gould makes a valiant attempt to reconcile religion and science. To do this, Gould, an evolutionary biologist and a prolific essayist who wrote a monthly column for the magazine Natural History until shortly before his all too early demise, introduces the idea of NOMA, or non-overlapping magisteria. Religion and science should not be seen as rivals for the loyalty of anyone because they occupy and have authority over domains (magisteria) that don't really intrude or overlap. Science is in this sense then, truly about the ages of rocks, and religion, with its realm being that of the spiritual and ethical is concerned with the Rock of Ages. Of course, to accept Gould's argument, one has to concede that what one's conception of evidence and authority is subject to this strict definition of proper authority. This is where Gould runs into a bit of trouble--should non-believers just concede that a spiritually minded person has an equally legitimate claim to truth as an atheist or agnostic (or the proposition can just a validly be phrased in the reverse). While I admire Gould and I am not as dogmatic about my lack of faith as say, Richard Dawkins, I am not sure how convincing the argument is. Gould seems to want to pour a lot of oil on the troubled waters of controversy (a laudable goal it seems) but true believers or non-believers will probably not buy it. Still, it is a pleasant book to listen to (Gould's essays are among my favorite pieces of nonfiction) and will stimulate thought.
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- Raskolnikov
- 09-11-20
Deep Thoughts, Average Writing
NOMA stands for, "Non-Overlapping Magisteria." Professor Stephen Jay Gould argues that Science and Religion each have a right to exist and value for Humanity. However, they should stay separate like oil and water. (My metaphor." But, several places in this book, SJG suggests that there should be lively disccussions between the two discrete mutually exclusive groups. Why? Many public intellectuals have disagreed with SJG's arguments herein, including Richard Dawkins and the late Christopher Hitches. And, I think that most scientists would disagree with SJG. Most scientists probably think that religion is just nonsense and should not be respected. I think that the biggest problem with this book is that SJG never defines, "religion." He is often saying that religion has merit, but he never really says why. He just says that religion is responsible for moral questions that science cannot answer. Most atheists would think that such a comment is insane. In fact, most atheists see religion as immoral. I could go on-and-on here. When I started listening, I found it difficult to follow. So, I stopped listening, read the book, then listened to it. So, two passes through this small book. At the end, SJG starts writng about syncretism. SJG hates syncretism. But, you know what? I like it. I am a Deist. I think that there is a Creator but this Creator is an Impersonal Generic God, maybe some kind of algorithm. Deist think that God came; God created; God left. Where did God go? Deist use the word, "elsewhere." Where is, "elsewhere?" Who knows, but not here. Aristotle was the first Deist with his Unmoved Mover. Spinoza was a Deist. Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were Deists. Einstein was a Deist. Today, Deists think that God ignited the Big Bang and then left, leaving the physical laws of this Universe to fend-for-itself. So, I sort-of like syncretism. Syncretism is saying comments like, "Hey, gravity is godlike because gravity is a physical law." Or, to use one of SJG's examples: "If gravity was a bit stronger we would be ripped apart and if electromagnetism was a bit stronger we would collapse like a bad soufflé." Something like that. And, this proves that a Creator made these physical laws just-so in order to allow us to live. SJG hates this. In fact, throughout this book, SJG is belittling the significance of Human Beings, like we are no better than ants. Ha. I just can't go there. For me, as a Deists, Human Beings are the highest living form in the Universes. And, we must evolve ever to a greater being via Artificial Intelligence. For me, Human Beings must become little gods. So, I really can't agree with a lot of this book. Nevertheless, I'm glad that I read it.
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- David
- 08-07-14
Engaging but did we need to write this book?
I liked it. It was interesting, but I was never sure it needed to be written. I wonder if those that need to understand the concept of Non-overlapping Magisteria would ever read the book. I think he cited great examples, and explained himself well. I did learn that 1) the flat Earth idea wasn't how we viewed the world in the Middle Ages, we only started to say we did in the 1870's. and 2) that the idea of the conflict of science and religion was a made up idea. Those were both good to know. Seemed like a lot of work for a simple idea. I liked it. I like Stephen Jay Gould. Wouldn't call this his best book, but still interesting. It was worth reading. It definitely help my attention.
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- Gary
- 03-11-15
Time has passed this book by
The book's theme is Science and Religion have non overlapping domains, Science can't give ethical and moral truths and that religion should be respected when it stays within it's own domain.
I'm glad this book is not influential today. When it was written (in 1998 according to the book itself) marriage equality was completely being shot down by the imprimatur of religion. Science actually refuted each of the arguments used by religion ("it's not natural", "people aren't born that way", "it's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve who were in the Garden of Eden", and other statements which Religions defined as moral truths), and Science showed their statements to be false thus changing the dialog. Science didn't need to go into the ethical or moral sphere directly, but rather provided arguments to refute statements based on authority only. This book would have allowed the science but seems like it would have suggested it remain silent instead of challenging the religious dogma which was based on authority alone.
Another example, a current senator from Oklahoma has written a book on how climate change is impossible because his revealed religion tells him so based on his moral beliefs and his interpretation of his bible. That argument by itself deserves no respect. The science is speaking loud and clear and global warming is real and is man made. Once again, on strict reading of Gould's book he would have allowed the science to proceed, but he would have required respect in challenging the assertions. I would suggest the arguments put forth in that book should be attacked and shown no respect whatsoever.
He did say a couple things in the book that highlight its anachronistic nature. He says, what happened before the big bang is best left to religion since nobody can say what happened before. The overwhelming majority of today's physicist ignore that statement and give reasonable theories and speculate what happened before the big bang. Also, he thinks ID (intelligence design) is not significant (as he was writing in 1998). It is very relevant today. We even had a president since that time who thought Russia was Gog (or Magog) and is part of the 'end times' as prophesied in Daniel and Revelations.
Morality and ethics are complex. Reason, rational thought, experience and our empathy and concepts of reciprocity are good starting points. People who pretend to know things they don't know and thus have no doubt do not make for good starting points and are best ignored if possible, but unfortunately anti-Marriage Equality, Climate Denialism, Intelligence Design, and other such items have real world consequences and must be considered for what they are: absurd positions not worthy of respect.
Overall, the book is silly and is best ignored.
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