
Nation of Victims
Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence
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Vivek Ramaswamy
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The New York Times bestselling author of Woke Inc. and a 2024 presidential candidate makes the case that the essence of true American identity is to pursue excellence unapologetically and reject victimhood culture.
Hardship is now equated with victimhood. Outward displays of vulnerability in defeat are celebrated over winning unabashedly. The pursuit of excellence and exceptionalism are at the heart of American identity, and the disappearance of these ideals in our country leaves a deep moral and cultural vacuum in its wake.
But the solution isn’t to simply complain about it. It’s to revive a new cultural movement in America that puts excellence first again.
New York Times bestselling author Vivek Ramaswamy makes the case from firsthand experience that the essence of true American identity is to pursue excellence unapologetically—no matter your skin color or where your parents came from.
Leaders have called Ramaswamy “the most compelling conservative voice in the country” and “one of the towering intellects in America,” and this book reveals why: he spares neither left nor right in this scathing indictment of the victimhood culture at the heart of America’s national decline.
Following the success of his instant bestseller Woke Inc., Ramaswamy explains in his new book that we’re a nation of victims now. It’s one of the few things we still have left in common—across black victims, white victims, liberal victims, and conservative victims. Victims of each other, and ultimately, of ourselves.
This fearless, provocative book is for listeners who dare to look in the mirror and question their most sacred assumptions about who we are and how we got here. Intricately tracing history from the fall of Rome to the rise of America, weaving Western philosophy with Eastern theology in ways that moved Jefferson and Adams centuries ago, this book describes the rise and the fall of the American experiment itself—and hopefully its reincarnation.
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The world is in turmoil. From India to Turkey and from Poland to the United States, authoritarian populists have seized power. As a result democracy itself may now be at risk. Two core components of liberal democracy - individual rights and the popular will - are at war with each other. As the role of money in politics soared and important issues were taken out of public contestation, a system of "rights without democracy" took hold. Populists who rail against this say they want to return power to the people. But in practice they create a system of "democracy without rights."
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Not worth it
- De DailyShopper en 06-07-18
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The Secret Knowledge
- On the Dismantling of American Culture
- De: David Mamet
- Narrado por: Johnny Heller
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For the past 30 years, David Mamet has been a controversial and defining force in theater and film, championing the most cherished liberal values along the way. In some of the great movies and plays of our time, his characters have explored the ethics of the business world, embodied the struggles of the oppressed, and faced the flaws of the capitalist system. But in recent years Mamet has had a change of heart.
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Mamet's Rubicon
- De Kirk en 08-13-11
De: David Mamet
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Beyond the Messy Truth
- How We Came Apart, How We Come Together
- De: Van Jones
- Narrado por: Prentice Onayemi
- Duración: 7 h y 16 m
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In Beyond the Messy Truth, Jones offers a blueprint for transforming our collective anxiety into meaningful change. Tough on Donald Trump but showing respect and empathy for his supporters, Jones takes aim at the failures of both parties before and after Trump's victory. He urges both sides to abandon the politics of accusation and focus on real solutions. Calling us to a deeper patriotism, he shows us how to get down to the vital business of solving, together, some of our toughest problems.
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I never hated anyone before
- De Joanna Bugajska en 11-17-17
De: Van Jones
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The 10 Big Lies About America
- Combating Destructive Distortions About Our Nation
- De: Michael Medved
- Narrado por: Michael Medved
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In this bold and brilliantly argued book, acclaimed author and talk-radio host Michael Medved zeroes in on 10 of the biggest fallacies that millions of Americans believe about our country - in spite of incontrovertible facts to the contrary. In The 10 Big Lies About America, Medved pinpoints the most pernicious pieces of America-bashing disinformation that pollute current debates about the economy, race, religion in politics, the Iraq war, and other contentious issues.
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Truth
- De Dominique Bessette en 01-23-17
De: Michael Medved
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Cowards
- What Politicians, Radicals, and the Media Refuse to Say
- De: Glenn Beck
- Narrado por: Ron McLarty
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As we approach the most important presidential election in America’s history, something has been lost among all of the debates, attack ads, and super- PACs - something that Americans used to hold in very high regard: THE TRUTH. The truth can no longer be something we hope for; it must be something we live. When courage prevails, cowards do not - and this book was written to ensure that’s exactly what happens.
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Guess what... Its by Glenn Beck!!
- De Joseph en 07-17-12
De: Glenn Beck
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The Democracy Project
- A History, a Crisis, a Movement
- De: David Graeber
- Narrado por: Grover Gardner
- Duración: 9 h y 38 m
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Democracy has been the American religion since before the Revolution - from New England town halls to the multicultural democracy of Atlantic pirate ships. But can our current political system, one that seems responsive only to the wealthiest among us and leaves most Americans feeling disengaged, voiceless, and disenfranchised, really be called democratic? And if the tools of our democracy are not working to solve the rising crises we face, how can we - average citizens - make change happen? David Graeber, one of the most influential scholars and activists of his generation, takes listeners on a journey through the idea of democracy.
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Must-read: such insight, an awakening!
- De Kevin en 10-15-14
De: David Graeber
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Democracy in Black
- How Race Still Enslaves the American Soul
- De: Eddie S. Glaude Jr.
- Narrado por: Kevin Free
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America's great promise of equality has always rung hollow in the ears of African Americans. But today the situation has grown even more dire. From the murders of black youth by the police to the dismantling of the Voting Rights Act to the disaster visited upon poor and middle-class black families by the Great Recession, it is clear that black America faces an emergency - at the very moment the election of the first black president has prompted many to believe we've solved America's race problem.
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The Dysfunctional Mindset of American
- De Paul T. en 07-09-16
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The Audacity of Hope
- Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream
- De: Barack Obama
- Narrado por: Barack Obama
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In July 2004, Barack Obama electrified the Democratic National Convention with an address that spoke to Americans across the political spectrum. Now, in The Audacity of Hope, Senator Obama calls for a different brand of politics: a politics for those weary of bitter partisanship and alienated by the "endless clash of armies" we see in Congress and on the campaign trail; a politics rooted in the faith, inclusiveness, and nobility of spirit at the heart of "our improbable experiment in democracy".
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My Fellow Conservatives, Give This A Listen
- De Dallas D.L. en 02-12-15
De: Barack Obama
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Reason
- Why Liberals Will Win the Battle for America
- De: Robert B. Reich
- Narrado por: Robert B. Reich
- Duración: 7 h y 23 m
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From Robert B. Reich, passionate believer in American democracy and public servant, Reason is a guide to confronting and derailing what he sees as the mounting threat to American liberty, prosperity, and security posed by the radical conservatives, Radcons as he calls them.
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Reason
- De Ron Green en 03-13-05
De: Robert B. Reich
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Bannon
- Always the Rebel
- De: Keith Koffler
- Narrado por: William LeRoy
- Duración: 5 h y 37 m
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To understand the Trump White House, you need to understand Steve Bannon: what's driving him, what his true role is, and what he's trying to accomplish on behalf of the American middle class. White House reporter Keith Koffler penetrates the fog surrounding the mysterious senior White House advisor, tracing Bannon's wild and distinctly American path to the White House in this first-ever honest biography of the controversial figure.
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The "real" Steve Bannon! Great read!
- De Amazon Customer en 12-20-17
De: Keith Koffler
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The War on the West
- De: Douglas Murray
- Narrado por: Douglas Murray
- Duración: 12 h y 42 m
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In The War on the West, Douglas Murray shows how many well-meaning people have been fooled by hypocritical and inconsistent anti-West rhetoric. After all, if we must discard the ideas of Kant, Hume, and Mill for their opinions on race, shouldn’t we discard Marx, whose work is peppered with racial slurs and anti-Semitism? Embers of racism remain to be stamped out in America, but what about the raging racist inferno in the Middle East and Asia?
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Every Human (seriously, everyone) Read This!
- De aaron en 04-27-22
De: Douglas Murray
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Capitalist Punishment
- How Wall Street Is Using Your Money to Create a Country You Didn't Vote For
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Three Wall Street firms have quietly amassed more money than Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Andrew Carnegie, and John Rockefeller combined. But the money isn’t even theirs. These asset managers have accumulated all their power through “passive funds,” as most investors no longer believe anyone can reliably pick stocks. Yet the Big Three have decided that they can reliably pick the right social policies instead.
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Today
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Woke, Inc.
- Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam
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There’s a new invisible force at work in our economic and cultural lives. It affects every advertisement we see and every product we buy, from our morning coffee to a new pair of shoes. “Stakeholder capitalism” makes rosy promises of a better, more diverse, environmentally friendly world, but in reality, this ideology, championed by America’s business and political leaders, robs us of our money, our voice, and our identity.
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Must read of 2021
- De chris boutte en 08-22-21
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Truths
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Today’s conservatives know what they’re against. They’re anti-woke, anti-globalist, anti-big government. But what exactly do they stand for? The fact that this is a hard question to answer is a damning indictment of the modern Republican Party which has abjectly failed to articulate an affirmative alternative to the left’s vision. Ramaswamy calls on the conservative movement to articulate exactly what it stands for, or else warns of another illusory “red wave” in 2024.
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A Modern Day “Common Sense”
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For Love of Country
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A soldier, former member of Congress, and a presidential candidate, Tulsi loves her country: "I answered the call of duty and took an oath, dedicating my life to supporting and defending those freedoms, both in uniform and in public office. I became a Democrat when I ran for office because I saw them as a party that stood up for the little guy and against the interests of big business and warmongers. I remained a Democrat for twenty years, albeit with an independent streak." Today that party is unrecognizable.
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Honest, passionate, and the most American book of 2024
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Ship of Fools
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The host of Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson Tonight offers a blistering critique of the new American ruling class, the elites of both parties, who have taken over the ship of state, leaving the rest of us, the citizen-passengers, to wonder: How do we put the country back on course?
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Read if you want to hear about how ridiculous the ruling elite are
- De Sadie K en 03-02-19
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Brainwashed
- How Universities Indoctrinate America's Youth
- De: Ben Shapiro, David Limbaugh - foreword
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When parents send their children off to college, Mom and Dad hope they'll return more cultivated, knowledgeable, and astute - able to see issues from all points of view. But, according to Ben Shapiro, there's only one view allowed on most college campuses: a rabid brand of liberalism that must be swallowed hook, line, and sinker.
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fine audiobook that does a good job of capturing bens style, can’t make up for terrible book
- De Matt en 08-28-20
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Capitalist Punishment
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Three Wall Street firms have quietly amassed more money than Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Andrew Carnegie, and John Rockefeller combined. But the money isn’t even theirs. These asset managers have accumulated all their power through “passive funds,” as most investors no longer believe anyone can reliably pick stocks. Yet the Big Three have decided that they can reliably pick the right social policies instead.
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Today
- De Jerry Jacobson en 06-26-23
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Woke, Inc.
- Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam
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There’s a new invisible force at work in our economic and cultural lives. It affects every advertisement we see and every product we buy, from our morning coffee to a new pair of shoes. “Stakeholder capitalism” makes rosy promises of a better, more diverse, environmentally friendly world, but in reality, this ideology, championed by America’s business and political leaders, robs us of our money, our voice, and our identity.
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Must read of 2021
- De chris boutte en 08-22-21
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Truths
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Today’s conservatives know what they’re against. They’re anti-woke, anti-globalist, anti-big government. But what exactly do they stand for? The fact that this is a hard question to answer is a damning indictment of the modern Republican Party which has abjectly failed to articulate an affirmative alternative to the left’s vision. Ramaswamy calls on the conservative movement to articulate exactly what it stands for, or else warns of another illusory “red wave” in 2024.
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A Modern Day “Common Sense”
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For Love of Country
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A soldier, former member of Congress, and a presidential candidate, Tulsi loves her country: "I answered the call of duty and took an oath, dedicating my life to supporting and defending those freedoms, both in uniform and in public office. I became a Democrat when I ran for office because I saw them as a party that stood up for the little guy and against the interests of big business and warmongers. I remained a Democrat for twenty years, albeit with an independent streak." Today that party is unrecognizable.
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Honest, passionate, and the most American book of 2024
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Ship of Fools
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- De Sadie K en 03-02-19
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Brainwashed
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When parents send their children off to college, Mom and Dad hope they'll return more cultivated, knowledgeable, and astute - able to see issues from all points of view. But, according to Ben Shapiro, there's only one view allowed on most college campuses: a rabid brand of liberalism that must be swallowed hook, line, and sinker.
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fine audiobook that does a good job of capturing bens style, can’t make up for terrible book
- De Matt en 08-28-20
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A Letter to Liberals
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A leading Democrat challenges his party to return to liberal values and evidence-based science.
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One-sided, interesting but biased
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One of conservatism's most articulate voices dissects today's most important economic, racial, political, education, legal, and social issues, sharing his entertaining and thought-provoking insights on a wide range of contentious subjects.
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The Divine Logic
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The MAGA Doctrine
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The Tea Party began as a protest for patriots who feared Big Government. President Trump has become a hero for patriots who are against Big Everything. Fed up with Silicon Valley, the media, liberal higher education, the military-industrial complex, Twitter mobs, swamp monsters, Big Pharma, out-of-control prosecutors, and gun-grabbing fascists, ordinary Americans miss the days when America cared about rule of the people, by the people, and for the people.
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MAGA
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Bullies
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Ben Shapiro uncovers the simple strategy used by liberals and their friends in the media: bully the living hell out of conservatives. Play the race card, the class card, the sexism card. Use any and every means at your disposal to demonize your opposition - to shut them up. Then pretend that such bullying is justified because, after all, conservatives are the true bullies and need to be taught a lesson for their intolerance.
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The Long Slide
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Thirty years ago, Tucker Carlson got his first job out of college fact-checking for a quarterly magazine, and he went on to write for many other publications before becoming the primetime Fox News host he is today. In The Long Slide, Tucker delivers a few of his favorite pieces - annotated with new commentary and insight - to memorialize the tolerance and diversity of thought that the media used to celebrate instead of punish.
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Tucker does it again
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Tucker
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For tens of millions of Americans, Tucker Carlson was long the only voice on cable news providing a counternarrative to establishment Washington and the mainstream press on the most important issues of our time: the Covid-19 vaccine, January 6, the Ukraine war, and even UFOs, just to name a few.
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A master class on living an ethical life.
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Primetime Propaganda
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The syndicated columnist and bestselling author of Brainwashed, Porn Generation, and Project President tells the shocking true story of how the most powerful medium of mass communication in human history became a vehicle for spreading the radical agenda of the left side of the political spectrum. Similar to what Bernard Goldberg’s Bias and A Slobbering Love Affair did for the liberal news machine, Shapiro’s Primetime Propaganda is an essential exposé of corrupting media bias, pulling back the curtain on widespread and unrepentant abuses of the Hollywood entertainment industry.
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just a big Eye opener to what we already knew but did not acknowledge.
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Blackout
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Black Americans have long been shackled to the Democrats. Seeing no viable alternative, they have watched liberal politicians take the Black vote for granted without pledging anything in return. In Blackout, Owens argues that this automatic allegiance is both illogical and unearned. She contends that the Democrat Party has a long history of racism and exposes the ideals that hinder the Black community’s ability to rise above poverty, live independent and successful lives, and be an active part of the American dream.
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Thought provoking!
- De Girl with curls en 09-16-20
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Unwoke
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- De: Ted Cruz
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In a book both articulate and desperately needed, bestselling author Senator Ted Cruz provides a long overdue argument against the woke takeover of education, big business, the media, and Hollywood.
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This is one of top listens
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De: Ted Cruz
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How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps
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From Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States to the New York Times' 1619 project, the modern Left views American history through the lens of competing oppressions, replacing the traditional understanding that all Americans are part of a shared journey toward the perfection of universal ideals. Their attacks on the values that built our nation, from the rights to free speech and self-defense to the importance of marriage and faith communities, are insidious because they replace each of them with nothing beyond an increased reliance on the government.
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A necessary call for unity
- De Brian Sachetta en 07-21-20
De: Ben Shapiro
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The Authoritarian Moment
- How the Left Weaponized America's Institutions Against Dissent
- De: Ben Shapiro
- Narrado por: Ben Shapiro
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According to the establishment media, the intelligentsia, and our political chattering class, the greatest threat to American freedom lies in right-wing authoritarianism. We’ve heard that some 75 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump represent the rise of American fascism; that conservatives have allowed authoritarianism to bloom in their midst, creating a grave danger for the republic.
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The Daily Weasel
- De Jonathan Bruce Williams en 07-30-21
De: Ben Shapiro
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The Great Reset
- Joe Biden and the Rise of Twenty-First-Century Fascism
- De: Glenn Beck, Justin Trask Haskins
- Narrado por: Glenn Beck
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An international conspiracy among powerful bankers, business leaders, and government officials; closed-door meetings in the Swiss Alps; and calls for a radical transformation of every society on earth - the Great Reset sounds like it is one henchman-with-an-eyepatch away from being the plot for the next James Bond movie. But The Great Reset is not a work of fiction. It is a highly influential movement among the world’s elite to “reset” the global economy using banks, government programs, and environmental, social, and governance metrics.
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Where Do We Go From Here?
- De David en 02-04-22
De: Glenn Beck, y otros
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- Tommy Frietch
- 09-13-22
Great listen
Overall very interesting listen. Compelling narrative. Would recommend to both conservatives and liberals to listen.
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Powerful Considerations
The author’s background is impressive, well researched, and he provides some important things to think about from a dignified & respectful position.
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- M. Carter
- 10-24-22
Fantastic book
Beautifully written, sweeping book covering history, philosophy, law, politics, and a small well placed touch of Hinduism. I am a lifelong Democrat, but would vote for Vivek if he ran for office. He speaks the common sense this country needs to hear.
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- William C Cady
- 11-21-22
Value of Respect
Vivek Ramaswamy did explain himself in confronting our lives as a victim in a nation of victims around us and included the connection we all are subjective.
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- Johnna Lynne Reed
- 12-07-22
Excellent
Great story line. Many good ideas and views I hadn’t thought of before. Listen with an open mind.
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- G. Raney
- 03-16-23
Brilliant guy, but I don’t agree with everything
I really enjoyed 90+% of the book. But I don’t agree with the inheritance tax idea. Yes a lot of that makes sense, but it doesn’t work for all groups. What about farmers? This proposal would destroy family farms, and the super rich this it is aimed at would find loopholes or alternative ways to passing down wealth.
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- Jesse G.
- 06-19-23
Extremely insightful
Well thought out and written & great narration on this audiobook. I wish these insights were treated with more than a glimpse from the mainstream media.
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- SoCal Clan
- 02-18-23
Eye opening
Vivek - great job putting your opinion out there and voicing what the other side may be thinking.
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- Julie Mayernich
- 09-02-24
An awakening
This work of actual art helped me find love for literature, the future, and morality in a way that was lost to me for so long.
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- Gregory A Ritchie
- 01-03-23
Excellent book
Ramaswamy addresses many unspoken concerns that we face related to the trends toward victimized culture. More importantly, he addresses some longer term ideas worthy of further discussion on solving them. Narration is great too.
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