
Confessions of an Egyptologist
Lost Libraries, Vanished Labyrinths & the Astonishing Truth Under the Saqqara Pyramids
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In this book, Erich von Däniken shares the story of his friend Adel H., an Egyptologist who, as a 16-year-old boy, was trapped for days under the Step Pyramid of Saqqara. Based on his conversations with Adel H., he retells the boy's search for a way out of the underground world, how the boy roamed passageways and chambers and saw what he calls "impossible" things of which the professional world is completely unaware. Adel experienced uncanny events, a mixture of spirit realm and reality, which is described here for the first time. "The story of Egypt," Adel says, "has two sides - the official one and the unknown one."
It is secrets like the sights and events Adel experiences underground that von Däniken refers to throughout this book. Von Däniken shows that the Great Pyramid of Giza is nothing but a huge library created for the people of the future. He proves his claim through quotes from the few ancient works that still survive. Who actually had an interest for millennia in destroying knowledge/books? It's not about a few thousand, but about millions of books. Von Däniken documents the fanatical destructive rage of the people and means: If we would only have 1/10,000th of the former writings, human prehistory would have to be completely rewritten.
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Meet Me in Atlantis
- My Quest to Find the 2,000-Year-Old Sunken City
- De: Mark Adams
- Narrado por: Andrew Garman
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A few years ago, Mark Adams made a strange discovery: Everything we know about the lost city of Atlantis comes from the work of one man, the Greek philosopher Plato. Then he made a second, stranger discovery: Amateur explorers are still actively searching for this sunken city all around the world, based entirely on the clues Plato left behind.
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A Bryson-esque tour of people, myth, & archaeology
- De A reader en 05-14-15
De: Mark Adams
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Technology of the Gods
- The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients
- De: David Hatcher Childress
- Narrado por: Paul Woodson
- Duración: 9 h y 25 m
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Popular Lost Cities author David Hatcher Childress takes us into the amazing world of ancient technology, from computers in antiquity to the flying machines of the gods. Childress looks at the technology that was allegedly used in Atlantis and the theory that the Great Pyramid of Egypt was originally a gigantic power station. He examines tales of ancient flight and the technology that it involved; how the ancients used electricity; megalithic building techniques; the use of crystal lenses and the fire from the gods; and more.
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- De Hagood en 03-20-18
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Lost Cities, Ancient Tombs
- 100 Discoveries That Changed the World
- De: Ann R. Williams - editor, Douglas Preston - introduction
- Narrado por: Mari Weiss
- Duración: 14 h y 19 m
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Blending high adventure with history, this chronicle of 100 astonishing discoveries from the Dead Sea Scrolls to the fabulous “Lost City of the Monkey God” tells incredible stories of how explorers and archaeologists have uncovered the clues that illuminate our past.
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Just what I wanted
- De Amazon Customer en 01-16-22
De: Ann R. Williams - editor, y otros
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The Lost Empire of Atlantis
- History's Greatest Mystery Revealed
- De: Gavin Menzies
- Narrado por: Gildart Jackson
- Duración: 11 h y 44 m
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New York Times bestselling historian Gavin Menzies presents newly uncovered evidence revealing, conclusively, that “the lost city of Atlantis” was not only real but also at the heart of a highly advanced global empire that reached the shores of America before being violently wiped from the earth. For three millennia, the legend of Atlantis has gripped the imaginations of explorers, philosophers, occultists, treasure hunters, historians, and archaeologists. Until now, it has remained shrouded in myth. Yet, like ancient Troy, is it possible that this fabled city actually existed?
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Absolutely abominable!
- De Magdalene en 03-05-18
De: Gavin Menzies
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Red Land, Black Land
- Daily Life in Ancient Egypt
- De: Barbara Mertz
- Narrado por: Lorna Raver
- Duración: 14 h y 56 m
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Esteemed Egyptologist Barbara Mertz updates her widely praised social history of the people of ancient Egypt, which was originally published in 1968. Combining impeccable scholarship with a delightfully personal style, the author reconstructs the life of the Egyptians from birth to death, and beyond death, too.
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Brilliant
- De Elizabeth en 04-03-10
De: Barbara Mertz
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The Sign and the Seal
- The Quest for the Lost Ark of the Covenant
- De: Graham Hancock
- Narrado por: Steven Crossley
- Duración: 21 h y 31 m
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The fate of the Lost Ark of the Covenant is one of the great historical mysteries of all time. The Bible contains hundreds of references to the Ark's power, but the Ark itself mysteriously disappears from recorded history sometime after the building of the Temple of Solomon. After 10 years of searching through the dusty archives of Europe and the Middle East, Graham Hancock has succeeded where scores of others have failed. This intrepid journalist has tracked down the true story behind the myths and legends - revealing where the Ark is today, how it got there, and why it remains hidden.
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Ridiculous.
- De D. MacNair en 11-09-19
De: Graham Hancock
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The 12th Planet
- The Earth Chronicles, Book 1
- De: Zecharia Sitchin
- Narrado por: Bill Jenkins
- Duración: 2 h y 21 m
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According to Sumerian scholar Zecharia Sitchin, a superior race of beings once inhabited our world. In The 12th Planet—the product of 30 years of intensive research—Sitchin persuasively argues that humanity sprang from extraterrestrial forebears. In this remarkable account, you'll hear the story of how these ancient visitors traveled to Earth from the stars and planted the genetic seed that would ultimately blossom into a remarkable species—the human being.
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- De Jill en 06-17-11
De: Zecharia Sitchin
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Archaeology from Space
- How the Future Shapes Our Past
- De: Sarah Parcak
- Narrado por: Sarah Parcak
- Duración: 8 h y 39 m
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In Archaeology from Space, Sarah Parcak shows the evolution, major discoveries, and future potential of the young field of satellite archaeology. From surprise advancements after the declassification of spy photography, to a new map of the mythical Egyptian city of Tanis, she shares her field's biggest discoveries, revealing why space archaeology is not only exciting, but urgently essential to the preservation of the world's ancient treasures.
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So excited
- De Michael G Bell en 05-15-21
De: Sarah Parcak
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Scotland's Hidden Sacred Past
- De: Freddy Silva
- Narrado por: Freddy Silva
- Duración: 6 h y 29 m
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Around 6000 BC, a revolution took place on Orkney and the Western Isles of Scotland. An outstanding collection of stone circles, standing stones, round towers, and passage mounds appeared seemingly out of nowhere. And yet many such monuments were not indigenous to Britain, but to regions of the Caspian Sea and the Mediterranean. Their creators were equally mysterious. Traditions tell of the Papae and Peti, "strangers from afar" who were physically different, dressed in white tunics, and lived aside from the regular population.
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Magical
- De Mori en 12-17-21
De: Freddy Silva
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The Writing of the Gods
- The Race to Decode the Rosetta Stone
- De: Edward Dolnick
- Narrado por: Fajer Al-Kaisi
- Duración: 8 h y 32 m
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The Rosetta Stone is one of the most famous objects in the world, attracting millions of visitors to the British museum every year, and yet most people don’t really know what it is. Discovered in a pile of rubble in 1799, this slab of stone proved to be the key to unlocking a lost language that baffled scholars for centuries.
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Hieroglyphs For The People
- De Spike en 01-15-22
De: Edward Dolnick
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Secrets and Mysteries of the World
- De: Sylvia Browne
- Narrado por: Sylvia Browne
- Duración: 2 h y 38 m
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For those of us who have always been fascinated by the unexplained, or inadequately explained, secrets and mysteries of this world, psychic Sylvia Browne now comes to our rescue. From the Great Pyramid to Stonehenge, Sylvia reveals amazing facts behind some of the world's most mysterious sites.
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Utter, utter crap
- De Sebastiaan en 02-28-05
De: Sylvia Browne
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Impossible Truths
- Amazing Evidence of Extraterrestrial Contact
- De: Erich von Daniken
- Narrado por: Charles Constant
- Duración: 2 h y 33 m
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Featuring profiles of Machu Picchu, the Nazca Lines, and other archaeological mysteries, Impossible Truths shines a startling new light on the true relationship between alien species and humankind.
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- De Clb en 05-03-22
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War of the Gods
- Alien Skulls, Underground Cities, and Fire from the Sky
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: David Stifel
- Duración: 5 h y 48 m
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With impressive examples von Däniken illustrates some of the numerous cities that were dug underground as safe harbors from the destructive boulders. Miles and miles of underground passageways have been discovered around the world as they made space for villages and entire cities. To end the book, von Däniken presents his newest discoveries of an event: In 2017, the author was informed that strange mummified creatures were found near the Peruvian village of Nazca. One of the mummies, apparently several thousand years ago, had been implanted with a metal plate under the skin.
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Great book but hard listening
- De Kevin Ferguson en 01-01-21
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Pathways to the Gods
- The Stones of Kiribati
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: Kent Cassella
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A spaceport in the Andes! A computer chart in Egyptian ruins! Primitive sculptures of figures wearing space suits! Erich von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods stunned the world with the archaeological discovery that alien beings once colonized earth.
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Okay, good, but dry.
- De Norman Kent en 08-31-11
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Earth
- An Alien Enterprise: The Shocking Truth Behind the Greatest Cover-Up in Human History
- De: Timothy Good
- Narrado por: Stephen Bel Davies
- Duración: 17 h y 47 m
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This fascinating new volume tells the story of contact between aliens and humans from all across the globe, dating back to 1932, including meetings with military personnel and American presidents such as Eisenhower and Kennedy. For the first time, a former member of MI6 reveals her conversation with Neil Armstrong at a NASA conference, when she confirmed that there were "other" spacecraft on the moon when Apollo 11 landed in 1969. Armstrong also confirmed that the CIA was behind the cover-up.
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- De Janalyn en 12-10-19
De: Timothy Good
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The Ancient Alien Question, 10th Anniversary Edition
- An Inquiry into the Existence, Evidence, and Influence of Ancient Visitors
- De: Philip Coppens, Erich Von Däniken - foreword, Kathleen McGowan - preface
- Narrado por: Kevin Foley, Bob Souer
- Duración: 9 h y 45 m
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Analyzing the historical and archaeological evidence, Philip Coppens demonstrates that there is substantial proof that our ancestors were far more technologically advanced than currently accepted and that certain cultures interacted with nonhuman intelligences. Our ancestors were clearly not alone.
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Intriguing, well researched
- De Patricia from Missouri en 04-10-21
De: Philip Coppens, y otros
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The Return of the Gods
- Evidence of Extraterrestrial Visitations
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: Arthur Morey
- Duración: 7 h y 32 m
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Never afraid to put forward controversial theories if justified by the data, Erich von Daniken here examines the huge amount of accumulated evidence that points to Earth having been subject to countless visits from extraterrestrials for many years. The dawn of a new century, the building of a new space station, and triumphs in the exploration of space have brought greater interest than ever in the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
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Return of the Gods?
- De Tandgn en 03-14-12
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Impossible Truths
- Amazing Evidence of Extraterrestrial Contact
- De: Erich von Daniken
- Narrado por: Charles Constant
- Duración: 2 h y 33 m
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Featuring profiles of Machu Picchu, the Nazca Lines, and other archaeological mysteries, Impossible Truths shines a startling new light on the true relationship between alien species and humankind.
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- De Clb en 05-03-22
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War of the Gods
- Alien Skulls, Underground Cities, and Fire from the Sky
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: David Stifel
- Duración: 5 h y 48 m
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With impressive examples von Däniken illustrates some of the numerous cities that were dug underground as safe harbors from the destructive boulders. Miles and miles of underground passageways have been discovered around the world as they made space for villages and entire cities. To end the book, von Däniken presents his newest discoveries of an event: In 2017, the author was informed that strange mummified creatures were found near the Peruvian village of Nazca. One of the mummies, apparently several thousand years ago, had been implanted with a metal plate under the skin.
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Great book but hard listening
- De Kevin Ferguson en 01-01-21
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Pathways to the Gods
- The Stones of Kiribati
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: Kent Cassella
- Duración: 7 h y 40 m
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A spaceport in the Andes! A computer chart in Egyptian ruins! Primitive sculptures of figures wearing space suits! Erich von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods stunned the world with the archaeological discovery that alien beings once colonized earth.
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Okay, good, but dry.
- De Norman Kent en 08-31-11
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Earth
- An Alien Enterprise: The Shocking Truth Behind the Greatest Cover-Up in Human History
- De: Timothy Good
- Narrado por: Stephen Bel Davies
- Duración: 17 h y 47 m
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This fascinating new volume tells the story of contact between aliens and humans from all across the globe, dating back to 1932, including meetings with military personnel and American presidents such as Eisenhower and Kennedy. For the first time, a former member of MI6 reveals her conversation with Neil Armstrong at a NASA conference, when she confirmed that there were "other" spacecraft on the moon when Apollo 11 landed in 1969. Armstrong also confirmed that the CIA was behind the cover-up.
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This is a book!
- De Janalyn en 12-10-19
De: Timothy Good
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The Ancient Alien Question, 10th Anniversary Edition
- An Inquiry into the Existence, Evidence, and Influence of Ancient Visitors
- De: Philip Coppens, Erich Von Däniken - foreword, Kathleen McGowan - preface
- Narrado por: Kevin Foley, Bob Souer
- Duración: 9 h y 45 m
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Analyzing the historical and archaeological evidence, Philip Coppens demonstrates that there is substantial proof that our ancestors were far more technologically advanced than currently accepted and that certain cultures interacted with nonhuman intelligences. Our ancestors were clearly not alone.
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Intriguing, well researched
- De Patricia from Missouri en 04-10-21
De: Philip Coppens, y otros
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The Return of the Gods
- Evidence of Extraterrestrial Visitations
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: Arthur Morey
- Duración: 7 h y 32 m
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Never afraid to put forward controversial theories if justified by the data, Erich von Daniken here examines the huge amount of accumulated evidence that points to Earth having been subject to countless visits from extraterrestrials for many years. The dawn of a new century, the building of a new space station, and triumphs in the exploration of space have brought greater interest than ever in the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
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Return of the Gods?
- De Tandgn en 03-14-12
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The Anunnaki Connection
- Sumerian Gods, Alien DNA, and the Fate of Humanity
- De: Heather Lynn PhD
- Narrado por: Chelsea Stephens
- Duración: 7 h y 43 m
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In The Anunnaki Connection, Heather Lynn connects a diverse range of new and existing theories about the Anunnaki, offering a definitive guide to Mesopotamian gods while exploring what role they might have played in engineering mankind. The Anunnaki Connection traces the evolution of gods throughout the Ancient Near East, analyzing the religion, myth, art, and symbolism of the Sumerians, investigating: Who are the Anunnaki?
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- De Marco en 05-27-20
De: Heather Lynn PhD
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Underworld
- The Mysterious Origins of Civilization
- De: Graham Hancock
- Narrado por: Dennis Kleinman
- Duración: 31 h y 33 m
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From Graham Hancock, best-selling author of Fingerprints of the Gods, comes a mesmerizing book that takes us on a captivating underwater voyage to find the ruins of a lost civilization that's been hidden for thousands of years beneath the world's oceans. While Graham Hancock is no stranger to stirring up heated controversy among scientific experts, his books and television documentaries have intrigued millions of people around the world and influenced many to rethink their views about the origins of human civilization.
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Fascinating
- De Michael Beeson en 05-13-19
De: Graham Hancock
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History Is Wrong
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: John Allen Nelson
- Duración: 6 h y 11 m
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Erich von Däniken again shows his flair for revealing truths that his contemporaries have missed. After closely analyzing hundreds of ancient and apparently unrelated texts, he is now ready to proclaim that human history is nothing like the world religions claim---and he has the proof! In History Is Wrong, von Däniken takes a closer look at the fascinating Voynich manuscript, which has defied all attempts at decription since its discovery, and makes some intriguing revelations about the equally incredible book of Enoch.
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Voynich Manuscript to nowhere
- De Mario en 01-05-12
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Evolution Is Wrong
- A Radical Approach to the Origin and Transformation of Life
- De: Erich von Daniken
- Narrado por: Charles Constant
- Duración: 5 h y 39 m
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Everywhere there are characteristics of animals that do not want to fit into the theory of evolution anywhere. And man? Are we really the most adapted life-form on this planet? Today, more and more scientists who contradict the previous theory of evolution speak out. The theory fits the changes within the species, but it can no longer be reconciled with the inner workings of the cell. Some other influence that has so far escaped us is affecting evolution. It is called "Intelligent Design." Intelligent planning is suspected behind this.
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- De Anonymous User en 11-05-24
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The Eyes of the Sphinx
- The Newest Evidence of Extraterrestrial Contact in Ancient Egypt
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: Danny Campbell
- Duración: 9 h y 13 m
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In this follow-up to Erich von Däniken's worldwide best seller Chariots of the Gods, the author reveals startling new evidence that could prove his theory that ancient Earth had contact with aliens. Von Däniken claims that an alien race helped to create the pyramids of Egypt, a claim he based upon the ruins themselves.
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Terrible but not because of what you're thinking
- De Brett en 08-21-13
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Black Genesis
- The Prehistoric Origins of Ancient Egypt
- De: Robert Bauval, Thomas Brophy PhD
- Narrado por: Michael Page
- Duración: 10 h y 13 m
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Uncovering compelling new evidence, Egyptologist Robert Bauval and astrophysicist Thomas Brophy present the anthropological, climatological, archaeological, geological, and genetic research supporting a hugely debated theory of the Black African origin of Egyptian civilization. Building upon extensive studies from the past four decades and their own archaeoastronomical and hieroglyphic research, the authors show how the early Black culture known as the Cattle People not only domesticated cattle but were also an advanced civilization.
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Incredible
- De bidderpinkdog en 03-22-19
De: Robert Bauval, y otros
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Alien World Order
- The Reptilian Plan to Divide and Conquer the Human Race
- De: Len Kasten
- Narrado por: Paul Costanzo
- Duración: 9 h y 57 m
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Chronicling the history of the Reptilian Empire's influence on Earth and their conquest of 21 star systems, Kasten reveals how the human race is enmeshed in a skillfully concealed plot to enslave humanity and exploit our planet's physical and biological resources. Revealing Hitler's pact with extraterrestrials and the Reptilian influence on the Nazi state, he shares new documents that disclose the rescue and rehabilitation of Nazi war criminals to assist in the Cold War, which then corrupted many US government institutions.
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I Couldn't get Enough
- De This is Diana en 05-17-19
De: Len Kasten
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The Gods Were Astronauts
- Evidence of the True Identities of the Old 'Gods'
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: Kevin Foley
- Duración: 7 h y 41 m
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Erich von Daniken has exhaustively researched and analyzed the great world religions, their myths and belief structures, in an effort to find an answer to a question that has fascinated humans for millennia: who, or what, were the Gods described in ancient stories? His extraordinary conclusion? The Gods were not metaphysical beings born of humanity's overactive imagination, but extraterrestrials who left traces of their presence everywhere on Earth.
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- De Jill en 07-18-11
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The Illuminati
- The Secret Society That Hijacked the World
- De: Jim Marrs
- Narrado por: Terrence Bayes
- Duración: 19 h y 23 m
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Chilling initiations. Big banks and money manipulations. Possible links to the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Adamses, and Bushes. Reviewing the evidence, documents, and connections, The Illuminati: The Secret Society That Hijacked the World by award-winning journalist and author Jim Marrs shines a light on the history, workings, continuing influence, and pernicious and hidden power of this secret order. Surveying experts, Marrs cuts through the wild speculation and the attempts to silence critical thinkers to tell the true story of this secret cabal.
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Repetitive but Very Interesting
- De Adam en 09-02-18
De: Jim Marrs
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Who Built the Moon?
- De: Christopher Knight, Alan Butler
- Narrado por: Shaun Grindell
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Authors Christopher Knight and Alan Butler realized that the ancient system of geometry they presented in their earlier breakthrough study works as perfectly for the Moon as it does the Earth. On further investigation, they found a consistent sequence of beautiful integer numbers when looking at every major aspect of the Moon - no such pattern emerges for any other planet or moon in the solar system. In addition, Knight and Butler discovered that the Moon possesses few or no heavy metals and has no core - something that should not be possible.
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Let the truth be told!!!
- De Mateo en 09-26-18
De: Christopher Knight, y otros
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Arrival of the Gods
- Revealing the Alien Landing Sites of Nazca
- De: Erich von Däniken
- Narrado por: John Allen Nelson
- Duración: 4 h y 18 m
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Nazca, once only an isolated settlement in the midst of the Peruvian desert, is today the meeting place for archaeologists from around the world. From here you can fly over the celebrated Nazca pampa and appreciate the massive scale of the extraordinary markings on the surrounding landscape. Some of these lines are over twenty kilometers long! Drawing on over thirty years of study, Erich von Daniken examines the various theories that attempt to explain the Nazca phenomena in terms of religious ritual, ancient roads, and astrological symbols.
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Interesting
- De Mark en 06-01-17
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The Aztec UFO Incident
- The Case, Evidence, and Elaborate Cover-Up of One of the Most Perplexing Crashes in History
- De: Scott Ramsey, Frank Thayer, Suzanne Ramsey
- Narrado por: Paul Woodson
- Duración: 10 h y 30 m
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The Aztec UFO Incident - the first ever widely publicized report of a recovered flying saucer - was derided as a hoax for decades. But now the Ramseys and Frank Thayer reveal the exact spot where the craft landed and show how the 100-foot-diameter saucer was moved to a secret laboratory. Witnesses to the incident who were interviewed by the authors affirm that they were sworn to secrecy by the military. The authors also reveal the names of scientists who worked on the craft after its recovery.
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Hard research only, with little speculation.
- De jebidia24 en 07-25-16
De: Scott Ramsey, y otros
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- Mournblade14
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Excellent and mostly correct
This is an interesting tale even if you don’t buy into it. Well researched and well written. I do believe him however, even if I feel he’s a little wide of the mark on some points - after all that’s how science is supposed to work, it’s rarely a revelation but rather a series of refinements. Excellent book.
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- JohnnyBass2420
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Wow!!!
I loved it! Erich does it again he wows, surprises, educates, & makes you think
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- Louise Kohler
- 02-16-25
Profoundly Transformative Potential Here
The contents of this book are limitless in their ability to navigate multiple layers of human comprehension. I am amazed! New information is presented here that has now put many of my ponderings to rest while simultaneously creating more complex questions that yearn for home-based, heart-felt answers; similar to those found here. Enjoy!
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- WinkyLee
- 12-11-24
The stars and their stories
I love ancient alien history and megalithic history. It’s unfortunate that many of these places and their cultures have been lost forever due to the wars in these areas. I enjoy stories that come from these places. This was easy to follow.
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- Braedon Anderson
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insightful
really enjoyed this book, provided very interesting and intelligent perspectives on important ancient topics. regardless if it's true or not, well worth the insight. highly recommend to scholars that entertain these topics. thank you Erich.
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Outstanding
Great supplemental information! This really makes you think and believe and want to research the truth!
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Book is Pseudo History or sScience
If you believe in fantasy you might like this book. At times, statements in this book are not true or misleading.
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- W. Noshie
- 12-13-22
Erich is writing about anything and nothing
When a man writes chariots of the gods, then write this book, something must have gone wrong in the years between those 2 books. This book is entertaining but it stops right there.
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