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How US Military Bases Abroad Harm America and the World
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David Vine
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American military bases encircle the globe with nearly 1,000 locations in foreign lands. These bases are usually taken for granted or overlooked entirely. But in an eye-opening account, Base Nation shows that the worldwide network of bases brings with it a panoply of ills - and actually makes the nation less safe in the long run.
As David Vine demonstrates, the overseas bases raise geopolitical tensions and provoke widespread antipathy toward the United States. They also undermine American democratic ideals, pushing the US into partnerships with dictators and perpetuating a system of second-class citizenship. They breed sexual violence, destroy the environment, and damage local economies. And their financial cost is staggering: though the Pentagon underplays the numbers, Vine's accounting proves that the bill approaches $100 billion per year.
With the US withdrawing from Afghanistan and ending 13 years of war, there is no better time to reexamine the tenets of our military strategy. Base Nation is an essential contribution to that debate.
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De: Chalmers Johnson
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Cuba Libre
- A 500-Year Quest for Independence
- De: Philip Brenner, Peter Eisner
- Narrado por: Robert Fass
- Duración: 15 h y 11 m
- Versión completa
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 27
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Narración:5 out of 5 stars 22
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 22
This timely book provides a balanced, deeply knowledgeable introduction to Cuba since 1492. Tracing the island's history over 500 years, the authors provide an incisive overview for anyone interested in exploring beyond the enduring stereotypes.
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2 out of 5 stars
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Lost Opportunity (and time)
- De Alexander Piquer en 05-04-18
De: Philip Brenner, y otros
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This Brave New World
- India, China and the United States
- De: Anja Manuel
- Narrado por: Elizabeth Wiley
- Duración: 12 h y 14 m
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 41
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Narración:4 out of 5 stars 35
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 35
In the next decade and a half, China and India will become two of the world's indispensable powers - whether they rise peacefully or not. During that time, Asia will surpass the combined strength of North America and Europe in economic might, population size, and military spending. Both India and China will have vetoes over many international decisions, from climate change to global trade, human rights, and business standards.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Good book, could be better
- De General en 09-23-16
De: Anja Manuel
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Descent into Chaos
- The United States and the Failure of Nation Building in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Central Asia
- De: Ahmed Rashid
- Narrado por: Arthur Morey
- Duración: 19 h y 11 m
- Versión completa
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General4 out of 5 stars 138
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 71
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Historia4 out of 5 stars 75
Rashid examines Central Asia, and the corridors of power in Washington and Europe, to see how the promised nation building in the region has progressed. His conclusions are devastating.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Useful!
- De John Robert BEHRMAN en 02-24-09
De: Ahmed Rashid
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Your Government Failed You
- Breaking the Cycle of National Security Disasters
- De: Richard A. Clarke
- Narrado por: Richard A. Clarke
- Duración: 10 h y 25 m
- Versión resumida
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General4 out of 5 stars 88
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 44
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 44
In Your Government Failed You, Clarke looks at why failures have continued and how America and the world can succeed against the terrorists. But Clarke goes beyond terrorism to examine the recurring U.S. government disasters. Despite the lessons of Vietnam, we've gotten involved in Iraq. Drawing on his 30 years in the White House, Pentagon, State Department, and Intelligence Community, Clarke discovers patterns in the failure and suggests ways to stop the cycle.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Stellar Criticism
- De Tim en 04-01-09
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The Shock Doctrine
- The Rise of Disaster Capitalism
- De: Naomi Klein
- Narrado por: Jennifer Wiltsie
- Duración: 9 h y 2 m
- Versión resumida
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 2,059
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 1,431
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 1,426
In her groundbreaking reporting, Naomi Klein introduced the term "disaster capitalism." Whether covering Baghdad after the U.S. occupation, Sri Lanka in the wake of the tsunami, or New Orleans post-Katrina, she witnessed something remarkably similar. People still reeling from catastrophe were being hit again, this time with economic "shock treatment," losing their land and homes to rapid-fire corporate makeovers. The Shock Doctrine retells the story of the most dominant ideology of our time, Milton Friedman's free market economic revolution.
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5 out of 5 stars
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If It's Bad for Humanity, It's Good for Business
- De Nelson Alexander en 09-29-07
De: Naomi Klein
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Pakistan on the Brink
- The Future of America, Pakistan, and Afghanistan
- De: Ahmed Rashid
- Narrado por: Arthur Morey
- Duración: 8 h y 8 m
- Versión completa
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General4 out of 5 stars 93
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 85
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 85
What are the possibilities—and hazards—facing America as it withdraws from Afghanistan and reviews its long engagement in Pakistan? Where is the Taliban now in both of these countries? What does the immediate future hold, and what are America’s choices going forward? These are some of the crucial questions that Ahmed Rashid—Pakistan’s preeminent journalist—takes on in this follow-up to his acclaimed Descent into Chaos.
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3 out of 5 stars
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A Very Long NPR-like Interview and History Lesson
- De Harry Zimmer en 04-23-12
De: Ahmed Rashid
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In the Graveyard of Empires
- America’s War in Afghanistan
- De: Seth G. Jones
- Narrado por: William Hughes
- Duración: 13 h y 9 m
- Versión completa
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General4 out of 5 stars 158
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 125
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Historia4 out of 5 stars 124
Following September 11, the United States successfully overthrew the Taliban regime. It established security throughout the country, and Afghanistan finally began to emerge from more than two decades of conflict. But Jones argues that, as early as 2001, planning for the Iraq War siphoned off resources and talented personnel, undermining the gains that had been made. After eight years, the United States had pushed al-Qaeda’s headquarters about one hundred miles across the border into Pakistan.
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3 out of 5 stars
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Interesting Book but- Worst Narrator Ever
- De Mark C en 01-08-11
De: Seth G. Jones
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Private Empire
- ExxonMobil and American Power
- De: Steve Coll
- Narrado por: Malcolm Hillgartner
- Duración: 24 h y 16 m
- Versión completa
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 763
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 638
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 633
Steve Coll investigates the largest and most powerful private corporation in the United States, revealing the true extent of its power. ExxonMobil’s annual revenues are larger than the economic activity in the great majority of countries. In many of the countries where it conducts business, ExxonMobil’s sway over politics and security is greater than that of the United States embassy. In Washington, ExxonMobil spends more money lobbying Congress and the White House than almost any other corporation. Yet despite its outsized influence, it is a black box.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Please no more accents!
- De Zak en 07-24-12
De: Steve Coll
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The Looting Machine
- Warlords, Oligarchs, Corporations, Smugglers, and the Theft of Africa's Wealth
- De: Tom Burgis
- Narrado por: Grover Gardner
- Duración: 11 h y 5 m
- Versión completa
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 297
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 258
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 256
The trade in oil, gas, gems, metals, and rare earth minerals wreaks havoc in Africa. During the years when Brazil, India, China, and the other "emerging markets" have transformed their economies, Africa's resource states remained tethered to the bottom of the industrial supply chain. While Africa accounts for about 30 percent of the world's reserves of hydrocarbons and minerals and 14 percent of the world's population, its share of global manufacturing stood in 2011 exactly where it stood in 2000: at 1 percent.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Frightening, Fascinating, Fatiguing
- De Scott en 07-29-18
De: Tom Burgis
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The Less You Know, the Better You Sleep
- Russia's Road to Terror and Dictatorship Under Yeltsin and Putin
- De: David Satter
- Narrado por: Victor Bevine
- Duración: 5 h y 23 m
- Versión completa
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 136
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 122
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 123
In this book Satter tells the story of the apartment bombings and how Boris Yeltsin presided over the criminalization of Russia, why Vladimir Putin was chosen as his sucessor, and how Putin has suppressed all opposition while retaining the appearance of a pluralist state. As the threat represented by Russia becomes increasingly clear, Satter's description of where Russia is and how it got there will be of vital interest to anyone concerned about the dangers facing the world today.
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5 out of 5 stars
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David understands Russia better than Russians do
- De Grigory en 04-05-17
De: David Satter
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The Real North Korea
- Life and Politics in the Failed Stalinist Utopia
- De: Andrei Lankov
- Narrado por: Steven Roy Grimsley
- Duración: 10 h y 59 m
- Versión completa
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 604
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 529
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 528
Andrei Lankov has gone where few outsiders have ever been. A native of the former Soviet Union, he lived as an exchange student in North Korea in the 1980s. He has studied it for his entire career, using his fluency in Korean and personal contacts to build a rich, nuanced understanding. In The Real North Korea, Lankov substitutes cold, clear analysis for the overheated rhetoric surrounding this opaque police state.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Broad and nuanced account of North Korea
- De Neuron en 07-29-15
De: Andrei Lankov
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Out of the Mountains
- The Coming Age of the Urban Guerrilla
- De: David Kilcullen
- Narrado por: Christopher Kipiniak
- Duración: 14 h y 11 m
- Versión completa
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 249
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 224
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 222
When Americans think of modern warfare, what comes to mind is the US army skirmishing with terrorists and insurgents in the mountains of Afghanistan. But the face of global conflict is ever-changing. In Out of the Mountains, David Kilcullen, one of the world's leading experts on current and future conflict, offers a groundbreaking look at what may happen after today's wars end.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Insightful analysis
- De Anon en 11-06-19
De: David Kilcullen
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Rwanda, Inc.
- How a Devastated Nation Became an Economic Model for the Developing World
- De: Patricia Crisafulli, Andrea Redmond
- Narrado por: Hillary Huber
- Duración: 7 h y 19 m
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General4 out of 5 stars 109
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Narración:4 out of 5 stars 85
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Historia4 out of 5 stars 85
Eighteen years after the genocide that made Rwanda international news, yet left it all but abandoned by the West, the country has achieved a miraculous turnaround. Rising out of the complete devastation of a failed state, Rwanda has emerged on the world stage yet again - this time with a unique model for governance and economic development under the leadership of its strong and decisive president, Paul Kagame. Here, Patricia Crisafulli and Andrea Redmond look at Kagame’s leadership.
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2 out of 5 stars
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Paul Kagame is a dictator, not a savior.
- De Amazon Customer en 05-21-21
De: Patricia Crisafulli, y otros
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A Narco History
- How the United States and Mexico Jointly Created the “Mexican Drug War”
- De: Carmen Boullosa, Mike Wallace
- Narrado por: James Conlan
- Duración: 7 h y 40 m
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 386
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 341
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 342
The term Mexican Drug War misleads. It implies that the ongoing bloodbath, which has now killed well over 100,000 people, is an internal Mexican affair. But this diverts attention from the US role in creating and sustaining the carnage. It's not just that Americans buy drugs from and sell weapons to Mexico's murderous cartels. It's that ever since the US prohibited the use and sale of drugs in the early 1900s, it has pressured Mexico into acting as its border enforcer - with increasingly deadly consequences.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Interesting book, tricky pronunciation
- De Enrique en 12-24-18
De: Carmen Boullosa, y otros
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Putin's Kleptocracy
- Who Owns Russia?
- De: Karen Dawisha
- Narrado por: Robert Petkoff
- Duración: 14 h y 25 m
- Versión completa
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 295
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 265
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 267
The raging question in the world today is who is the real Vladimir Putin and what are his intentions. Karen Dawisha’s brilliant Putin’s Kleptocracy provides an answer, describing how Putin got to power, the cabal he brought with him, the billions they have looted, and his plan to restore the Greater Russia.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Who owns Russia
- De Amazon Customer en 11-09-14
De: Karen Dawisha
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FDR Goes to War
- How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, and Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America
- De: Burton W. Folsom, Anita Folson
- Narrado por: Alan Sklar
- Duración: 13 h y 18 m
- Versión completa
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 67
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 60
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 60
FDR Goes to War expands on the premise that FDR's legacy has damaged America and helped lay the groundwork for the current economic crisis.
The Folsoms continue to expose the idyllic legend of Franklin D. Roosevelt as a myth of epic proportions. Many government programs that are widely used today have their seeds in the New Deal.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Very good
- De Nick L en 11-03-12
De: Burton W. Folsom, y otros
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The dramatic story behind the most audacious power grab in American history. The financial crisis that exploded in 2008 isn’t past but prologue. The stunning rise, fall, and rescue of Wall Street in the bubble-and-bailout era was the coming-out party for the network of looters who sit at the nexus of American political and economic power. The grifter class - made up of the largest players in the financial industry and the politicians who do their bidding - has been growing in power for a generation, transferring wealth upward through increasingly complex financial mechanisms.
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4 out of 5 stars
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The reader sounds like a robot
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Lo que los oyentes dicen sobre Base Nation
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- CJ
- 12-26-18
base nation review
absolutely outstanding. perfect blend of history, statistics, and ideology. if you want to know more about u.s. foreign policy, military logistics, or the history of bases over the last 150 years, READ THIS
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- Tommy
- 03-25-21
Top 10
Top ten books all time for me. Up there with Command and Control, Raven Rock, Operation Paperclip, and Killing The SS
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- Lifeisshort
- 09-03-15
Looked Better On Paper
As a strong proponent of diminishing the size of our military footprint in the world this selection intrigued me. The product itself was less than satisfying though. It is close to fourteen hours and the narrator speaks without much inflection; making those hours pass far too slowly. More than once I found myself snapping back to attention completely lost, having zoned out. Thus unless you have patience, time and concentration to spare I can't recommend this audiobook.
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